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Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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The article goes astray in the very first paragraph. "Even after decades of affirmative action." The period starts after the Supreme Court's 1978 decision in Regents v. Bakke which put significant limits on how affirmative action programs can be structured. More generally, the entire 35-year period (starting 1982) takes place during a conservative retrenching from the civil rights era.

Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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More like "because of Affirmative Action". Just treat people as fairly as possible. The other way doesn't work.

We're going to play poker. Everyone will start with a randomly determined number of chips. But people whose HN handles start with A-H will get, on average, 40% less to start with. Aside from that tiny nit, it'll be a totally fair game.

Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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post #3

More like "because of Affirmative Action". Just treat people as fairly as possible. The other way doesn't work.

> Just treat people as fairly as possible.

Wow, man, you just like, solved racism and discrimination.

Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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I bet it's all those pesky good for nothing lazy asians that spend their entire time doing useless things like studying and trying to make it in life. They're the reason smart and honest blacks and hispanics are being pushed out of top universities. We really need to do something about this.

Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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More like "because of Affirmative Action". Just treat people as fairly as possible. The other way doesn't work.

We're going to play poker. Everyone will start with a randomly determined number of chips. But people whose HN handles start with A-H will get, on average, 40% less to start with. Aside from that tiny nit, it'll be a totally fair game.

The "fair" solution is to make sure that A-H folks start with the same amount as the rest.

The "reverse discrimination" solution is to take, after half of the game, the winnings of P-W folks and give them to C-J folks.

Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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post #3

More like "because of Affirmative Action". Just treat people as fairly as possible. The other way doesn't work.

> Just treat people as fairly as possible. Wow, man, you just like, solved racism and discrimination.

Discrimination can't be "solved" because 1. People are genetically different and 2. Anyone can have biases about anything. I could shut down every interviewee with big ears, or beady eyes, if I wanted to.

Again, all you can do is treat people as fairly as possible by basing admissions policies on merit and standardization, rather than sloppily basing them on perceived group identity.

Re: Blacks and Hispanics Are More Underrepresented at Top Colleges Than 35 Years Ago

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post #3

More like "because of Affirmative Action". Just treat people as fairly as possible. The other way doesn't work.

We're going to play poker. Everyone will start with a randomly determined number of chips. But people whose HN handles start with A-H will get, on average, 40% less to start with. Aside from that tiny nit, it'll be a totally fair game.

So give everyone the same number of chips; don't compensate by changing the rules so that a black straight beats a white flush.
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