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Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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I do wonder though if this lab-grow meat will be allowed to be called meat, since there was a strange ruling about Vegan dairy products[0].

It seems that this is less likely to receive such a treatment, since it's much closer to the actual thing in terms of composition, but beyond Meat might be given a harder time there, since their product is plant-based...

[0] https://www.just-food.com/news/eu-court-of-justice-rules-aga...

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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Lab grown meat is the industry I'd pick if I had to pick where the next rags to world's richest person will come from. Can it be scaled & beat conventional slaughter economically? I'm betting that it can. And it will disrupt a 100B+ annual industry.

> Can it be scaled & beat conventional slaughter economically? I'm betting that it can. I'm really skeptical of this. Feels like a "multiple PhDs later..." kind of problem. Is there are a reason why you think the research won't hit any roadblocks? And even if it succeeds, there could be insurmountable marketing issues. In the meantime, it's bad for vegetarianism. Meat eaters saying "why bother changing my diet, when…

Lab grown meat seems more plausible to me than trying to talk people into become vegetarians. But if you do figure out how to change cultures you could sell that recipe for big money to lots of folks (eg. the U.S. military)

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is MSG considered an artificial flavoring? I was under the impression that it is both naturally occurring in biology and that its health problems are greatly over-exaggerated. Nonetheless, point taken.

MSG's health problems are greatly over-exaggerated. Ever had Chinese food? Most asian dishes have a ton of MSG.

The funny thing is that the real health issue of MSG is rarely mentioned - it makes unhealthy food taste better. It is not surprising that we have evolved to appreciate the taste of protein. However when we add something that imparts a strong taste of protein while actually containing very little protein to food high in fat and carbohydrates then people may end up eating more of those.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

#105

Lab grown meat is the industry I'd pick if I had to pick where the next rags to world's richest person will come from. Can it be scaled & beat conventional slaughter economically? I'm betting that it can. And it will disrupt a 100B+ annual industry.

> Can it be scaled & beat conventional slaughter economically? I'm betting that it can. I'm really skeptical of this. Feels like a "multiple PhDs later..." kind of problem. Is there are a reason why you think the research won't hit any roadblocks? And even if it succeeds, there could be insurmountable marketing issues. In the meantime, it's bad for vegetarianism. Meat eaters saying "why bother changing my diet, when…

I agree with the sentiment that we need to change, but I do not think it is going to happen - we will only collectively change when we are forced to.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

#106
That they and their families will never eat.

This is just like when the British Parliament approved GMOs in the UK and on the same day officially forbid GMO foods from being served in the Parliament restaurant.

BTW I know the guy who was the head of the team who invented the GMO technology. He and his family and relatives only eat the cleanest, best quality ORGANIC food they can find.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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I am so sad that it won't be legal or at least profitable in Europe. People look for salt without GMO...

Actually, the first (IIRC) lab-grown burger was served 4 years ago in Maastricht, The Netherlands, by a company called Mosa Meat, back then already backed by Gates. A quick google finds https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/bill-gates-and-richa... on that investment, but I'm sure there's more. I think they got the price down a few hundreds per burger by now, still a way to go obviously, but there are many in-vitro research groups in Europe.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

#109

That they and their families will never eat. This is just like when the British Parliament approved GMOs in the UK and on the same day officially forbid GMO foods from being served in the Parliament restaurant. BTW I know the guy who was the head of the team who invented the GMO technology. He and his family and relatives only eat the cleanest, best quality ORGANIC food they can find.

so it will be less quality/taste product, at least in the beginning for sure. so what? why would you expect anything else in the beginning from such technology?

it is not supposed to replace kobe beef, it should feed the world of poor and severely malnutritioned. it is supposed to help with reduction of greenhouse gasses, since methane is much more powerful than CO2. it also could end bad treatment of stock animals in many places (along the logic that lab meat should replace cheap real meat of questionable quality that we eat all the time ie in most restaurants/quick eats).

when I travel to 3rd world countries, I have no expectations about quality of the meat products. meat is usually laden with loads of antibiotics, insecticides, growth hormones and what not. this should help too.

if it achieves this, while being only mediocre product for burgers and sausages, I will applaud the effort.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? As long as its vegan margarine. Its clean of at least a subset of ethical concerns that many foods are not. Clean is a very overloaded word though so I certainly see where you're coming from, but it works just fine for me.

Calling meat grown in a lab clean meat is just a marketing gimmick that could potentially make people believe they eat natural grown meat.

by clean they mean its not made from cows farting into the atmosphere
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