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Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by posguy »

fabian2k wrote: post #22
jstapels wrote: post #13

Egress pricing for Google and AWS (sans Lightsail) continues to be one of the biggest price differences between them and smaller hosts such as Linode and DigitalOcean. I think Google missed an opportunity here. They should have cut the prices more significantly for standard tier (sacrificing performance) to make this more competitive. Right now Linode's and DO's smallest $5 plan offers 1TB of transfer, which would co…

The extremely high egress prices for any cloud don't seem to have hurt their popularity much so far. So I suspect they all don't want to give up their cash cow. Compared to a VPS or renting a dedicated servers, the egress costs can be enormous if you come even close to using the traffic contingent you get with many VPS or dedicated hosts. Just as a comparison, a dedicated server with Hetzner for ~50-70 EUR per month…

Huh? VPS and dedicated hosts usually charge below a penny per gigabyte over your traffic limit, and if you open a support ticket they will usually work with you towards something in the sub-$4 per TB range.

Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by HappyTypist »

sitepodmatt wrote: post #180
_7iun wrote: post #50

A long standing complaint of mine is that Cloud egress pricing severely limits the usefulness of compute. If I want to say process some visual effects on a large (1TB) ProRes video, I might spend $1 on the compute but $100 on the egress getting it back. Unfortunately these changes don't really resolve that problem. "Standard" pricing is a paltry 20% less. That 1TB video egress still costs $80 and for that price I can…

I think part of the reason is people look at Linode/Vultr/DO and presume that 1/2TB for $5 is the market price (and then quote HE.Net/Cogent/Hibernia offering 10G to certain colos at $2-5kpm as backing proof), or dedicated servers with 10TB for $50pm etc... Linode/Vultr/DO mainly work off an average usage of 1%-2%, although at least they dont stop you deploying more boxes as you reach the limit, you can get clever an…

No, I can assure you that Linode, OVH, DO are making money per G at 1TB per $5.

Cloud providers are expensive because they want vendor lock in. They want to make it artificially cheaper to use their own services (elasticsearch, etc) over something else. And they want a high switchover cost when you want to transfer all of your data to another provider.

Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by kyledrake »

Great idea, but it's still way too expensive. I pay between $0.01/GB (the fancy CDN stuff) to ($0.0024/GB) from an IP transit provider for Neocities. That's market rate. I would have given them a pass at $0.02-$0.03, but not for $0.085.

If you pay this "public internet" rate, you're paying essentially 2007 transit prices. I hope you don't need to ship a lot of traffic. I hope you don't need to compete with someone that's paying market rate.

I would love to use GCS for our infrastructure, but with rates like this, it's hard to imagine us ever switching.

Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by Johnny555 »

Veratyr wrote: post #177
Johnny555 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, and it doesn't include standard GCE egress pricing, which is something like $120/TB. https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing

Given TFA, it's probably more accurate to say $85/TB: https://cloud.google.com/network-tiers/pricing

Does that apply to storage egress? The storage pricing page lists only one network tier:

https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing

Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by manigandham »

0x27081990 wrote: post #86

I thought they were firm supporters of Net Neutrality. Or is this somehow different case?

This has nothing to do with net neutrality. Google is giving you the option to use their private network (which is the default) all the way to the edge, or to stop using it after the local region. They're not discriminating traffic based on it's content or who you are.

It's the same as installing a direct line from your house to Google's DC. It's a private network that you pay more for, or you can just use the internet.

Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by lebinh »

pbbakkum wrote: post #52

A few notes here: - An unmentioned alternative to this pricing is that GCP has a deal with Cloudflare that gives you a 50% discount to what is now called Premium pricing for traffic that egresses GCP through Cloudflare. This is cheaper for Google because GCP and Cloudflare have a peering arrangement. Of course, you also have to pay Cloudflare for bandwidth. - This announcement is actually a small price cut compared t…

Just want to point out that Cloudflare doesn't charge for bandwidth, so egress from GCP to Cloudflare is a good way to cut the bandwidth cost.

Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers

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Post by regularfry »

nik736 wrote: post #67
deafcalculus wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The high bandwidth price is mostly to drive away seedboxes and porn sites. Huge discounts are likely available to big customers.

They could simply ban adult websites in their ToS, I doubt this is the reason. Also seed boxes are nowhere near useful if you still would pay $10 / TB and at the same time can get traffic for free at OVH or Online/Scaleway. It's most likely vendor lock-in and people are dumb enough to pay for it.

ToS means they have to police it. High prices police themselves.
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