Not that I'm really surprised, but does that map imply that Google has its own trans-atlantic undersea cables? Is there some more info about that?
Numerous cables under the Atlantic, their network map is quite something.
Introducing Network Service Tiers
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Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#32This precedent (including CloudFlare's new private routing) doesn't bode well for the public internet.
Imagine the day when everyone has to use private routing and the public internet barely even gets maintained anymore.
Of course, public internet also suffers tragedy of the commons and not much is happening on that front. Like how most people are still behind ISPs that allow their customers to spoof IP addresses. And nobody has reason to give a shit. We're getting pinned between worst of both worlds. It's a shame.
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are major clouds actually facing any real competition because of bandwidth pricing? On another note, Softlayer used to have generous multiple TB allocations for their dedicated servers but they took them away. It's likely that anyone needing high bandwidth, especially for static content, will have other edge networks and CDNs in place for that use case.
Of course not. They are not competing with Digital Ocean / Linode at all.
If that's true, why did Amazon come out with Lightsail?
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#34How is this different from paying more for a fast lane, which net neutrality is supposed to prevent? Edit: there seems to be a bit of confusion what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the Open Internet Order of 2015 [1] which states: 18. No Paid Prioritization. Paid prioritization occurs when a broadband provider accepts payment (monetary or otherwise) to manage its network in a way that benefits particular content,…
It's not differentiating by content, you're paying for a different service tier. It's like saying getting faster internet by paying for Comcast Business violates net neutrality.
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#35TL;DR: New Standard tier level is hot potato routing while existing (now called Premium) tier is cold potato routing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-potato_and_cold-potato_rou...
Other cloud providers like AWS and Azure use hot-potato routing which has lower performance and reliability than GCP's current network offering.
So Google is offering a new "standard tier" equivalent to AWS and Azure, and undercutting both of them on network egress costs by a small amount.
Network egress costs are still astronomical.
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#36I thought I read an article about an online game company who was doing something similar with their users; trying to get their users on their private network as soon as possible. Does anyone else remember that article on HN?
Not gaming, but Cloudflare also does this.
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#37The most interesting thing to me here is that they can actually deliver a cheaper service by going over the public internet. I would think their private net would be cheaper because they don't have to pay for transit.
I guess transit is still cheaper than maintaining ones own lines...
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#38The most interesting thing to me here is that they can actually deliver a cheaper service by going over the public internet. I would think their private net would be cheaper because they don't have to pay for transit. I guess transit is still cheaper than maintaining ones own lines...
Kind of amazing to watch this slow process of the content companies discover that running a global internetwork is actually difficult and expensive..
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#39This precedent (including CloudFlare's new private routing) doesn't bode well for the public internet. Imagine the day when everyone has to use private routing and the public internet barely even gets maintained anymore. Of course, public internet also suffers tragedy of the commons and not much is happening on that front. Like how most people are still behind ISPs that allow their customers to spoof IP addresses. An…
This isn't about the last mile so there is presumably lots of competition. And it seems like some companies being large enough to build their own is another form of that?
But I'm just responding with another armchair argument. It would be good to see some actual numbers about Internet health.
Re: Introducing Network Service Tiers
#40So now we know why Google's egress was so expensive before. It was the premium offering, and standard wasn't quite ready yet.