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Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by whatsreal »

norswap wrote: post #84
whatsreal wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be willing to link to what you consider the key blog posts? Thanks!

It's been a while so I don't remember specifics. However, after looking around, it seem the category "Patterns of Success for the Working World" ( http://calnewport.com/blog/archive/ ) captures what I thought the interesting content was. It's still 100+ blog posts, so you'll have to do a bit of sorting.

Here's a few from my own quick searching that I found most interesting/foundational/helpful:

http://calnewport.com/blog/2009/07/08/grit-grinds-and-living...

http://calnewport.com/blog/2012/11/21/knowledge-workers-are-...

http://calnewport.com/blog/2009/06/22/on-the-value-of-hard-f...

http://calnewport.com/blog/2009/02/16/the-danger-of-deep-pro...

http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/02/15/fixed-schedule-product...

http://calnewport.com/blog/2011/08/11/the-career-craftsman-m...

https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/getting-started-i...

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by Arnavion »

japhyr wrote: post #95
ptspts wrote: post #79

How is this page implemented for Chrome? It looks like it is using service workers. Is there a tutorial? EDIT: Tutorial for Chrome here: https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/getting-start...

I have a question after skimming that tutorial. When I knew there was some content on a web page in the past, and it was being obscured by some css/js code, I would often just view source and search for some of the content I knew was there. I'm finding this harder to do sometimes. So if I go to this page (Disconnect. Offline only) and view source, I see a link to a js file. No matter where I go with this, I can't fin…

I'm not sure what you're asking. "View source" will only show you the "source" text of the HTML page as the server sent it to you. Since this page is built with React without server-side rendering, said source just contains an empty div where the content would go (the one with id="root").

If you mean you want to see the DOM tree that has been generated with JS after you've loaded the page, you can see it in the corresponding tab in your browser's devtools. Eg in Chrome that's the "Elements" tab.

If you mean you want to know how the page works when you're offline, the information is again in the JS. You can use your browser's devtools to prettify it (both Chrome and FF have this feature) and search for "Do you want to be productive?" to see the code.

The Service Worker is only involved in that it returns the page and JS from its cache. It's the JS that detects whether it's offline or online and renders different content on the page accordingly. [1]

[1]: https://github.com/chrisbolin/react-detect-offline

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by akx »

japhyr wrote: post #95
ptspts wrote: post #79

How is this page implemented for Chrome? It looks like it is using service workers. Is there a tutorial? EDIT: Tutorial for Chrome here: https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/getting-start...

I have a question after skimming that tutorial. When I knew there was some content on a web page in the past, and it was being obscured by some css/js code, I would often just view source and search for some of the content I knew was there. I'm finding this harder to do sometimes. So if I go to this page (Disconnect. Offline only) and view source, I see a link to a js file. No matter where I go with this, I can't fin…

In Chrome's dev tools, there's a handy Offline/Online checkbox in the Network tab.

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe »

skrebbel wrote: post #47
Unbeliever69 wrote: post #45

I am probably one of the few techies in the world that does not own/use a smartphone. Since 2011 I have used a cheap Verizon flip phone for exactly this reason; I want more control over my life. NOTHING is that important that I need to be plugged in 24/7. My wife has a smart phone which is great for when we travel (maps, Yelp, Fandango, Uber, etc.) Don't get me wrong, I was standing in a long line outside the Apple s…

Do you text? EDIT: someone downvoted me, probably interpreting my question as a snark. It was a serious question: I'm considering to do what you are doing and I'm wondering whether you ditched texting too and whether that got you social repercussions. In my country it's a bit more complicated even because everybody WhatsApps and nobody uses SMS, so a true dumb phone won't cut it if you want dumb + text.

Hmm how about a dumb rom?

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by maccard »

tzakrajs wrote: post #92
baxtr wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree 100%. Problem is though that many airline are starting to offer WiFi connectivity. I just hope that they've built shitty systems that won't work most of the time... :)

Starting? Like ten years ago they started and now it's in nearly every plane.

I'm in Europe, and fly 4-5-6 times a year. It's only in the last 5 years that you're allowed have electronic devices turned on in planes here.

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by alethiophile »

Karunamon wrote: post #43
alanfranzoni wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, the smartphone is a great thing to take with you when something unpredictable happened and you're forced to wait 1/2/10 hourse, and you didn't take anything with you (a book, your computer, etc). But how often does this happen, and how often, instead, does a smartphone distract from better tasks? How often I choose not to pick a book when leaving, because I've got the smartphone "just in case" ? Of course I hav…

Serious, non-snarky question: In what way is a book better than a link on Hacker News or Facebook? The problem I see (and have yet to get a good answer for) with all of these extreme productivity tactics like shutting off all internet access is that carry a value judgment that older > newer, for all values of information absorption. It reminds me of how some of the financial advice for people in debt is to eschew all…

One of the major underlying issues people are calling out with the indictments of "smartphone culture", and trying to fix by going offline, is a sort of progressive shrinkage of the attention span. It involves progressively less continual attention paid to progressively more individual topics or items; the (current) apotheosis of this paradigm might be Twitter, where you read a constant feed of conceptually disconnected 140-character messages, and any longer-form thought needs unnatural gyrations of the underlying technology to express. Web surfing, or news reading, encourages this style of interaction, with the surfeit of links away to tangentially-related content that is usually not of a form to encourage deep immersion in a single piece.

Books, meanwhile, are of a form to encourage deeper immersion in a single input. Generally speaking, the obvious mode of interaction is to read a single book from start to finish, taking at least hours during which you remain focused on that topic. This kind of long-term focus is required to actually accomplish anything; therefore, a mode of information absorption that trains long-term focus is more effective of personal cultivation than one which encourages mayfly attention-hopping.

Nothing about this necessarily disparages the Internet; it's quite possible to focus on long-form pieces that are Internet-published, or to hop from topic to topic using offline media. But because friction costs encourage longer-term focus when offline, going offline is one effective way to incentivize it.

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by SilasX »

mck- wrote: post #85

Beauty. Almost a piece of art. I was on a plane yesterday (literally on airplane mode) and I finished a book I've been working on for a month, and prepped/wrote half of a presentation. Quite often I produce much of my writing on a plane. I find myself very productive on a plane. Especially on cheap flights that don't have in-flight entertainment. Literally no distractions for a preset amount of time. You're not only…

Also, web applications introduce sooooo much lag and delays when transitioning between sections or editing. Really finding that it breaks my flow.

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by beepboopbeep »

mooreds wrote: post #61
beat wrote: post #41

For those interested in managing online time and getting ourselves offline regularly, the book Deep Work , by Cal Newport, has some very useful ideas. One that I plan to start experimenting with is the idea of scheduled internet access - allow yourself to get online only at certain times of day. This isn't just for work. Even if you're, say, standing in line at the grocery store, you don't get to pull your phone out…

> As the author points out, we've forgotten how to be bored. I find outdoor activity to be one of the best way to be 'bored'. You have to focus on what your body is doing, you're back in nature, you'll be getting exercise. Leave the podcast/spotify at home.

I advocate for taking time off to literally do nothing. No schedule. No purpose. No clocks. Just get up and operate based on the sun's movement and your own bodies needs. Be bored. Slow down time and fully disconnect from work. It's a hell of an experience.

Re: Disconnect. Offline only

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Post by mantas »

maccard wrote: post #105
tzakrajs wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting? Like ten years ago they started and now it's in nearly every plane.

I'm in Europe, and fly 4-5-6 times a year. It's only in the last 5 years that you're allowed have electronic devices turned on in planes here.

Huh? I'm sure electronic devices were OK in Europe flights a decade+ ago...
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