What is it about javascript that seems to draw the SJWs like no other language?
Its popular, therefore a lot more public, is my guess. Its also pretty easy to pick up for a 'first programming language' so it tends to attract SJW-types.
Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't be harassed online, but they should be open to having their ideas, thoughts and beliefs challenged in a respectful way.
People shouldn't be harassed online, but they should be open to having their ideas, thoughts and beliefs challenged in a respectful way. My point was based on sarcasm :) Reading all the noise on GH yesterday, those most vocal in having this guy kicked out are also screaming loudest about the "need to feel safe" - for me, this usually induces a gag reflex: - "I am going to find where you live and do something nasty to…
Sorry, I knew you were being sarcastic. I responded because I wanted to pre-empt potential down voters.
I agree with what you said above. Most people who bleat about safe spaces are the kind you need a safe space to get away from them.
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#83Of course the SJW-infested npm inc folks are frothing at the bit for this fork. Instead of doing their jobs and keeping npm stable.
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#84Line that stood out to me: "Rod retweeted in support of an inflammatory anti-Code-of-Conduct article" If you're not 100% onboard with the politics, you're a horrible person.
While I agree with this specific point, it seems that was the "least worse" of that person's actions.
What where his really bad actions? Can't find much info.
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#85Reasons for fork: "Repeated ToC violations by an authority figure went unaddressed." https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/900109726872068096 Not sure what ToC is, but the alleged violations appear to be of Code of Conduct. Alleged violations are described here: https://twitter.com/ohhoe/status/899748838302302212 Most links are private, but here are the public ones: https://twitter.com/rvagg/status/887652116524707…
To be honest, for those not (already) involved in this whole debate, it is very difficult to make an informed opinion here. What I see is a screenshot of a GitHub issue ( https://twitter.com/ohhoe/status/899748838302302212 ) which was already redacted and does no longer provide any links. Tweet in support of "anti-CoC article" is there ( https://twitter.com/rvagg/status/887652116524707841 ) but that alone would not a…
That "anti-COC" article is as anti-COC as James Damore's memo was anti-diversity.
What it does is highlight how speech codes can be used by the socially hyperfluent to bully and dominate the less fluent, by placing an unreasonable burden on a speaker to have 100% prediction accuracy of every potential negative response.
http://quillette.com/2017/07/18/neurodiversity-case-free-spe...
That SJWs call it a strawman is just another example of how they always refuse to follow their own rules of empathy and inclusion.
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#86The more I code, the more I appreciate projects and languages that are not based on a democratic committee and have a consistent unique single minded vision.
I'd rather stick to a language/framework that aligns with my own preferences, than stick to one that tries to please to a large group of people.
I feel this is the major problem with Javascript, Node, etc.
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#87Reasons for fork: "Repeated ToC violations by an authority figure went unaddressed." https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/900109726872068096 Not sure what ToC is, but the alleged violations appear to be of Code of Conduct. Alleged violations are described here: https://twitter.com/ohhoe/status/899748838302302212 Most links are private, but here are the public ones: https://twitter.com/rvagg/status/887652116524707…
I don't see anything wrong with the tweets. I don't think Rod is a bad person, he's been involved with Node.js for years. Try working on an open source project for 5 years and then we can talk about altruism.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the tweets too. And it seems the Node Technical Steering Committee had similar thoughts, since they rejected the proposal of expelling Rod.
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#88Open a perfectly fine PR that fixes/accomplishes something but prefix PR comment with: "Hey guys,"
Sit back and watch as you're bombarded with threats and comments about being pro-rape, a straight white male and the like
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Going through those links it's still not obvious what's happening. @rvagg has some kind of leadership position, has some strong opinions about codes of conduct (not the only one), and they're forking the project for that? What?
It is unclear. Seemed like he has repeatedly used a language that some community members found offensive. His stance against Code of Conduct, as evident by this Tweet: https://twitter.com/rvagg/status/887652116524707841 and follow up comments were considered inappropriate by some. Even more details here: https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/310 """ The TSC members were not able to reach a natural consensus on the ste…
Rod: "C'mon mate, did you even read it? This is worthy of discussion, not simplistic dismissal". It doesn't seem a heated or offensive discussion to me. He just posted an article and was willing to discuss it with the community.
Re: Node.js is forked to Ayo.js (pronounced like “IO”)
#90The more I code, the more I appreciate projects and languages that are not based on a democratic committee and have a consistent unique single minded vision. I'd rather stick to a language/framework that aligns with my own preferences, than stick to one that tries to please to a large group of people. I feel this is the major problem with Javascript, Node, etc.
I totally agree with this... A unified vision is important in a project, that's not to say that there is a single correct way of writing something, but that for consistency and sanity each way should be unified.
The democracy exists through consumption by end users and layers in between... no internal conflicts, choice and democracy for the consumer, how is that a bad model.