Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
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Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#82> advised on polling statistics for the Trump campaign Going out on a limb here, I'd guess it might have something to do with that? It would also be very foolish of them to ever admit it and I bet they will come back and say it was an innocent "algorithm" mistake if this blows up too much. Unless someone internally leaks the mechanism or the reason it would be hard to tell. I think Google, Facebook, maybe Twitter and…
"Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms" (recent)
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#83Contrary to some of the other comments, I highly doubt there's any political agenda at play here. More likely, this user inadvertently tripped some automated algorithm somewhere, and then failed the automated appeals process. That said, it's their service and their rules. Don't host data you care about on free services run by capricious multinationals.
Do you think there's a possibility of political agenda?
For examples of Google censorship that, IMO have political agendas:
Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14975338
and Google's "AI" censoring war crime evidence from Youtube: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14998429
Youtube "AI" censoring US Army destroying Nuremburg swatzika: https://boingboing.net/2017/08/14/film-of-u-s-army-destroyin...
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the same argument that was used to wrongfully deny service to gay couples. You are turning a blind eye because corporations are attacking an ideology we disagree with. I do not believe that some people should be treated more equally than others.
> This is the same argument that was used to wrongfully deny service to gay couples. It is the argument that is still lawfully used to deny service on the basis of sexual orientation in much of the country; only a minority of states have public accommodation laws under which sexual orientation is a protected class. The balance between the state interests involvee in public accommodation laws and the free speech and f…
> It is the argument that is still lawfully used to deny service on the basis of sexual orientation in much of the country; only a minority of states have public accommodation laws under which sexual orientation is a protected class.
> Which can be an argument for internet companies not having their free speech rights limited in order to mandate that they relay political views they disagree with as easily as it can be an argument for that imposition.
That argument seems in direct opposition to the argument that, e.g. Christian bakers and photographers should be required to provide services for gay weddings. If Google may not be mandated to relay political views that they disagree with, how can photographers be mandated to do so? Do multi-national megacorporations have more rights than individuals? Or is one political view simply wrong, and therefore acceptable to discriminate against?
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the same argument that was used to wrongfully deny service to gay couples. You are turning a blind eye because corporations are attacking an ideology we disagree with. I do not believe that some people should be treated more equally than others.
It's not the same because white supremacists and other groups like this are not recognized by civil rights laws designed to prevent discrimination. These laws are specific and they single out groups that experience persecution due to history, culture or minority status, such as sex, age, color, sexual orientation, etc. Hate movements are not considered protected groups (in my opinion for good reason).
How do you define "hate movement"?
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#86"If you show probability work like Hillary having lower election odds, then this is new definition of hate speech." I get that the guy is angry. I would be too if I got locked out of my accounts, but this is a ludicrous accusation -- the new definition of hate speech? "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity." The idea that google is waging war on this guy because of election predictions he made…
I would be inclined to believe it wasn't something very deliberate if it was only one or a few services getting shut down, but everything is fully removed. Even his [blog]( https://statisticalideas.blogspot.com ) has a "this has been removed" header. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to this story than what's come out so far. I think it's worth following.
It seems the blog is back?
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#87Do not rely on Google and its services if your public beliefs / opinions do not align with the establishment, are politically incorrect in even the slightest degree, or if you value your privacy. There are good alternatives (preferably open source). https://www.privacytools.io/ https://www.prism-break.org/
Have there been some HN articles about good alternatives to Google services? I seem to remember Mail-in-a-box getting some support for running your own server. I've also seen kolabnow.com looking promising.
Like prh8, I too use FastMail. I trust the FastMail team, but a custom domain means I can switch e-mail providers without changing my e-mail address.
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#88http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... "Have worked with both the Obama administration and advised on polling statistics for the Trump campaign " as Joseph Stalin said - "no one is innocent". just have to dig deep enough.
Would you please not post ideological flamebait to HN? It's just the thing we're trying to avoid here, and the site guidelines explicitly ask you not to.
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#89http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... "Have worked with both the Obama administration and advised on polling statistics for the Trump campaign " as Joseph Stalin said - "no one is innocent". just have to dig deep enough.
Zero Hedge is like the rantings of paranoid conspiracy theorists
The good part about predicting economic apocalypse is that you are bound to be proven right every ten years or so.
Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
That probably predates Google's acquisition of Blogger.
Odd tho'. This mechanism defeats caching; it must cost them cash money to run on that architecture vs generating then serving static pages, perhaps only dynamically fetching comments. Someone at Google thinks it's worth paying for the ability to erase blogs entirely.
> This mechanism defeats caching
Wat?