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CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by munchhausen »

SimonPStevens wrote: post #147
X86BSD wrote: post #110

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I backup quite a bit and after deduplication with tarsnap it's not nearly as much.

That's kind of another problem though. No way to predict costs in advance. All you can do is know the upper bound. I have approx 2.5tb on CrashPlan, so that gives me an upper bound of $625 per month. Maybe it might be 50% lower when deduped, maybe more, maybe less. Who knows. Not really a pricing model I can make a decision on. Tarsnap looks great for certain use cases. But it doesn't really make sense for home users…

The Tarsnap client has a "dry-run" mode, which will dedup your data and tell you how much GB will it take up. Based on that, you can then make a calculation of how much will it cost.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by mafsedan »

mioelnir wrote: post #179

Looks like neither Backblaze nor Carbonite support E2E encrypted backups where I do not have to send the password to the cloud, or the private key is in fact generated inside the cloud. Which means I have to really scramble to find something else that is compatible with computer-illiterate family. Geez, not what I needed.

This is the most important issue for me. Last time I looked, nobody else let me hold the key and only held on to encrypted files on their end. It would be way to dangerous for me to do my PC backup any other way. If someone finds one of those other company's old disk drives and keys, they could empty all my back accounts, etc.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by [deleted] »

freehunter wrote: post #159
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #95

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I think you underestimate how many people are in the "lite data hoarders" category. I don't consider myself a huge data hoarder. I have about 4 Terabytes. That's the totality of two decades of collecting music, video, pictures, ROMS, game ISOs, etc. It's enough that I can still fit it all on today's portable external hard-drives. And I don't think it's really much more than other people who might do amateur photograp…

>I have about 4 Terabytes. That's the totality of two decades of collecting music, video, pictures, ROMS, game ISOs, etc. Good lord. And you need to back this all up in the cloud?

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by deanclatworthy »

noja wrote: post #180
deanclatworthy wrote: post #124

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I don't wish to store my families data in the cloud for a fee. Crashplan allowed me to use my own (spare) storage space to provide this for them.

That was a great feature. Mind if I ask why you don't want encrypted data in the cloud?

Because it costs me money to do so. Crashplan has always been free to backup data between machines and was/is very good at it. I don't mind paying for a 1tb hard drive to back up my mother's few photos, but trying to sell her on the idea of paying a monthly fee to do so is not going to get me far :)

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by ATsch »

andrewstuart2 wrote: post #127
rdtsc wrote: post #119

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Also works on Linux which Backblaze doesn't. I have Ubuntu on all the family and some extended family machines and using Crashplan currently. Anyone can recommend if a good backup alternative that works on a Linux (desktop)?

For full folder backups, duplicity [1] has been great for me, does incremental backups, and has quite a few backends. You control rotation policies, full-snapshot frequency, etc, and bring your own storage (works with s3, rsync, etc.). Full-folder recovery is also pretty easy in my experience. The downside is that it's all on you to configure providers, pay for storage, and I'm not aware of any indexing or ability to…

The issue with these for me is that with the common cloud storage providers, even just backing up my Documents folder raises it above the price of BackBlaze or a similar offering.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by geostyx »

rrauenza wrote: post #143
dawnerd wrote: post #92

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Adding a support in for duplicati. Been running it in a docker container on my servers for a while and it's been pretty smooth sailing. Sending all backups to a gsuite business account.

Duplicati is suprisingly easy to set up for Windows -> Linux. Installed the windows client, made an account on my linux box and pointed the windows client at it. Is it a proper service on Windows? That's a problem. I want to configure it from an admin account and have it still work when non admin/non tech savvy users login.

I can't answer your question, but every time I've tried Duplicati the DB gets corrupted pretty quick.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by gt_ »

sshanky wrote: post #90
5_minutes wrote: post #59

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Their 30 day file retention policy makes all these questions irrelevant. "Do they have a blog"? Really? I'm sorry but when it comes to backups I rather have them working on the product instead of having a marketing machine up and running.

I've always been a big fan of BB's blog, and have recommended their approach to friends and clients for their own blogs and sites. Their data, plans, and progress are not only interesting to people who care about the industry, but it's also a window into the kind of people they are. Proud of their accomplishments (their backup servers, which they've open sourced), and their tools (like their server lifts).

Poor thing, it's a blog. It's maintained and updated by the consumer oriented corporate brand. It's marketing.

I am not saying it's evil or that your wrong, but that your deductions are illogical.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by retSava »

metalliqaz wrote: post #52
stryk wrote: post #28

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There's rsync.net which very explicitly supports rsync/zfs over SSH

I have an account with rsync.net and I like them a lot for their Unix-friendly services. However, I unfortunately have to recommend that you NOT use rsync.net if you are on a Comcast/Xfinity cable modem. rsync.net has some kind of problem with the "Powerboost" feature. The first 10 megabytes of a transfer are fast as hell, then it drops to ~150kB/s. Have fun backing up gigabytes at that speed. There is something wron…

Do Comcast throttle torrents for you? Perhaps the traffic to rsync in some way looks like torrents to them. Or like spam/DOS or something like that. Or like a competitor. The things I've read about Comcast are not pretty, alas.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by ValentineC »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #128
CharlesW wrote: post #111

The only reason I used CrashPlan is that, on my home network, anything I'd want to back up is on my NAS. Are there alternative "consumer" solutions that support that?

I use IDrive for this. It runs right on my Synology NAS, doing scheduled backups of the data it contains. The pricing is pretty reasonable, too.

Heads-up for anyone considering IDrive — there's a "90% off" welcome promotion for the first year that's not really obvious on their website: https://www.idrive.com/idrive/signup/el/welcome90
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