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CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by cortesoft »

tomc1985 wrote: post #115
eli wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how "truly unlimited" and "data hoarders" can ever be the basis of a sustainable business. Each additional terabyte costs them real money to store.

Pennies. And they have lots of them what with all that enterprise corporate schlong in their mouths. Hope that money shot tasted good, effing traitors ! Businesses over these things are stewards, they have a responsibility beyond profits and shareholders and "Put Your Biggest Customer First"

If you really believe it is pennies per terabyte, than go ahead and start your own online backup company. It isn't that cheap, especially since you also have to pay for bandwidth, customer support, etc.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by mikevm »

ant512 wrote: post #30
rrauenza wrote: post #21

I think this means it is also an end to CrashPlan's peer to peer free backup solution? I don't believe their business plan offers that. Thank goodness I bought into their long service plan. I have 1.9 years to figure this out. We have one Linux NAS and a bunch of Windows clients. I could go with Crashplan Business on the NAS and then punt on the Windows clients. Or go back to BackupPC for windows... I hope their wind…

It's worth pointing out that CrashPlan's business client app uses Electron (because the Java client app for home users wasn't bloated enough). That's reason enough for me to look elsewhere.

According to their website you continue using the same Java app: Do I need to install a new CrashPlan app? No. The conversion process automatically updates the CrashPlan app on your computers. Instead of the green-themed CrashPlan for Home branding, you'll see the blue-themed CrashPlan for Small Business branding.

[0] https://support.crashplan.com/Subscriptions/Migrate_your_Cra...

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by Oletros »

mikevm wrote: post #146

I don't understand all the whining in this thread. Their new offer is pretty unbeatable: Back up for free until the end of your current CrashPlan for Home subscription, then enjoy a 75% discount for your next 12 months. After that, CrashPlan for Small Business costs $10 per device each month. So after the first discounted 12 months it will only cost $10 per backed up device. And you get: * Unlimited storage * Unlimit…

Perhaps a lot of the "whining" comes from the people using the Family Plan.

Going from $149/year for 2-10 computers to $240-$1200/year is not a little increase

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by porker »

mikevm wrote: post #146

I don't understand all the whining in this thread. Their new offer is pretty unbeatable: Back up for free until the end of your current CrashPlan for Home subscription, then enjoy a 75% discount for your next 12 months. After that, CrashPlan for Small Business costs $10 per device each month. So after the first discounted 12 months it will only cost $10 per backed up device. And you get: * Unlimited storage * Unlimit…

$10 per device is the backup world's "per-CPU" licensing.

Scenario: say I have multiple computers. I have a family's computers, plus parents and in-laws. The amount to backup on everyone else's computers is small (mine is ~1.5TB, more later). Before I covered it for free, knowing that for my peace of mind it was worth it. Now I'd be looking at $1200/yr vs the $150/yr before.

Aside: Regarding deduplication, I'm frustrated none of these backup systems will deduplicate across computers. My work desktop & work laptop contain many of the same files. Will any of them pick it up? No - because each computer encrypts with its own key. That's great, but for the two computers I own I'd like to set them to use the same key (this is with Arq BTW)

> I'm amazed that people here (who probably take in pretty decent salaries) cannot afford to pay $10 for a backup service that gives you all that.

A few points:

* I'm not in SV and neither are other readers. Wages in Europe are a lot smaller (though v good in the tech sector) * I can afford it, but I'll have to spend $1000 less on something else

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by apendleton »

freeone3000 wrote: post #113
5_minutes wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was probably a lot of abuse going on with the "unlimited" disk space aspect of it. I can imagine some people backing up their entire movie collection to their servers.

It's not "abuse" if you claim it's unlimited and people use it as if it were.

Sure, this is a figure of speech -- if it were abuse in a technical sense they would be going after users for terms of use violations rather than changing their pricing. I think the intent here is that they probably predicated their pricing on a certain anticipated usage pattern where most of their users would be regular people making backups of typical hard drive sizes and contents, and that more people took advantage of the unlimited offering to do something other than that, which meant their pricing didn't cover their costs.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by ant512 »

mikevm wrote: post #152
ant512 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth pointing out that CrashPlan's business client app uses Electron (because the Java client app for home users wasn't bloated enough). That's reason enough for me to look elsewhere.

According to their website you continue using the same Java app: Do I need to install a new CrashPlan app? No. The conversion process automatically updates the CrashPlan app on your computers. Instead of the green-themed CrashPlan for Home branding, you'll see the blue-themed CrashPlan for Small Business branding. [0] https://support.crashplan.com/Subscriptions/Migrate_your_Cra...

Hmm, maybe it's just the Enterprise version that's using Electron.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by freehunter »

linopolus wrote: post #141

For all those complaining about Backblaze not holding deleted data forever: Do you really rely on a cloud solution as your one and only backup? I use Backblaze, and I don't worry. It's not my only backup. I additionally have a local backup, which today has files I deleted like 5 years ago, as you should to. So go get happy with Backblaze, it's a nice application, not some slow Java thing like Crashplan, and just work…

>Do you really rely on a cloud solution as your one and only backup?

Most likely yes. Considering most people don't have any backups of any kind, having at least one backup, and an off-site backup at that, is infinitely better.

The number of people who have any backup is small. The number of people who have two is far, far smaller. Most people just don't care about their data that much unless they're a business, which is why this thread exists to begin with.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by freehunter »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #95
eli wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how "truly unlimited" and "data hoarders" can ever be the basis of a sustainable business. Each additional terabyte costs them real money to store.

I think you underestimate how many people are in the "lite data hoarders" category. I don't consider myself a huge data hoarder. I have about 4 Terabytes. That's the totality of two decades of collecting music, video, pictures, ROMS, game ISOs, etc. It's enough that I can still fit it all on today's portable external hard-drives. And I don't think it's really much more than other people who might do amateur photograp…

>I have about 4 Terabytes. That's the totality of two decades of collecting music, video, pictures, ROMS, game ISOs, etc.

Good lord. And you need to back this all up in the cloud?

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by kentt »

Good riddance. I switched from Backblaze to crashplan because it was cheaper for families. I've regretted it ever since. The client is horrible. Right now it's consuming about 4GB of memory. I had to increase that recently, otherwise it wouldn't even start. It littered gigs of log files around my system when it did that.

Often the webui would just timeout if I wanted to recover a file. Never could figure out why, so I couldn't really recover files reliably anyway.

I'm glad I'm forced to find a solution that better. I'd definitely stay away from them for business solutions.

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