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CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by pavel_lishin »

dokument wrote: post #42
pavel_lishin wrote: post #5

Well, fuck. Let the suggestions begin - who should I switch to? Bonus points if moving data to a newly purchased hard drive isn't a terrifying process that looks like it's losing all of my backups, as well as Linux/Windows/Mac support.

We need a p2p backup solution. Something like what wuala used to be but open source and distributed. Give up 1TB of local space to get ~750GB offsite, or something like that.

You might need a p2p backup solution where your computer is part of the network, but I want a me2idontcare solution, where I give up dollars, and gain gigabytes offsite.

I want a boring solution, written by a boring company, that very boringly stores my files.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#102

Post by [deleted] »

dawnerd wrote: post #92
DCKing wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Duplicity [1] is a free software project that creates incremental backups and encrypts them using GPG. It can use Backblaze B2 [2] as a remote synchronization option, which when I looked at options last year was also the cheapest cloud storage provider anywhere (if this has changed, let me know!). Duplicity also supports a very wide array of other cloud storage services if you'd like to use another one [1]. The kille…

Adding a support in for duplicati. Been running it in a docker container on my servers for a while and it's been pretty smooth sailing. Sending all backups to a gsuite business account.

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#103

Post by dchest »

X86BSD wrote: post #26
NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

Tarsnap.

Agree! It now even has a nice GUI https://github.com/Tarsnap/tarsnap-gui

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#104

Post by sumoboy »

I'm sure there tired of consumers taking advantage of the unlimited storage by storing PB's of data, and losing $$$. Amazon basically did the same thing recently removing unlimited storage. Business data is more a bit more predictable with storage needs and really makes alot more money.

I dumped crashplan a few years ago due to the bandwidth restrictions and time it would take to download TB's worth of data, built my own solution with a remote Synology nas. It's a real cost issue once you have more than 1-2TB of data, otherwise it's just easier to use gdrive or dropbox for most needs.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#105

Post by slavik81 »

X86BSD wrote: post #26
NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

Tarsnap.

Tarsnap is not reasonable alternative for most users. Consider that I was paying $5/mo for 200GB of storage from CrashPlan. From tarsnap, that would be $50/mo.

And, frankly, my measly 200GB isn't much data. A 2TB HDD costs under $100 and could cost $500/mo to back up with tarsnap. It would still have been $5/mo with CrashPlan.

I get that Colin is basically just charging the S3 costs plus a small margin, but the reality is that S3 is far too expensive to be used to store low-value consumer data.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#106

Post by paol »

X86BSD wrote: post #26
NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

Tarsnap.

One of the options I looked up after getting the email from Crashplan. Unfortunately the price is crazy, it would cost over $500/month for the amount of data I have in Crashplan for $5/month. (Granted that product is going away, but even the upgrade path to Crashplan Pro will only cost $10/month.)

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#107

Post by DCKing »

dawnerd wrote: post #92
DCKing wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Duplicity [1] is a free software project that creates incremental backups and encrypts them using GPG. It can use Backblaze B2 [2] as a remote synchronization option, which when I looked at options last year was also the cheapest cloud storage provider anywhere (if this has changed, let me know!). Duplicity also supports a very wide array of other cloud storage services if you'd like to use another one [1]. The kille…

Adding a support in for duplicati. Been running it in a docker container on my servers for a while and it's been pretty smooth sailing. Sending all backups to a gsuite business account.

Before any confusion arises, Duplicity and Duplicati despite their similar names and goals are two different projects that are not mutually compatible. The majority of my post is about the former, not the latter.

If my understanding is correct Duplicati started out as a C# rewrite of Duplicity (hence the name), but the projects have grown apart and are different things now. I don't think you can use Déja Dup with Duplicati, for example.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#108

Post by X86BSD »

barrkel wrote: post #60
X86BSD wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tarsnap. Seriously.

Only about 1000 USD per month for what I have in Crashplan - I think I'll give it a pass.

GAH! How much are you storing in crash plan? 1000USD/mo seems a little insane. Is that after deduplication with tarsnap?

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by 5_minutes »

gt_ wrote: post #80
5_minutes wrote: post #33

I actually have 3 Crashplan for Families under my hands. My mom and dads iMacs is one of them. This is literally easy money for Crashplan. But the price would double to move them to the new Small Business plan. What I liked about Crashplan, besides the unlimited space was that if files would get deleted, and you would find out about it 3 months later, you could recover them. With Backblaze, which is mentioned here, y…

The same point about file recovery was why I chose Crash Plan and why I did not believe their plan could be sustainable. :(

There was probably a lot of abuse going on with the "unlimited" disk space aspect of it. I can imagine some people backing up their entire movie collection to their servers.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

#110

Post by X86BSD »

slavik81 wrote: post #105
X86BSD wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tarsnap.

Tarsnap is not reasonable alternative for most users. Consider that I was paying $5/mo for 200GB of storage from CrashPlan. From tarsnap, that would be $50/mo. And, frankly, my measly 200GB isn't much data. A 2TB HDD costs under $100 and could cost $500/mo to back up with tarsnap. It would still have been $5/mo with CrashPlan. I get that Colin is basically just charging the S3 costs plus a small margin, but the reali…

I backup quite a bit and after deduplication with tarsnap it's not nearly as much.
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