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CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by cknight »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

The last one I tried was SpiderOak. I've got to be honest though, I wasn't a huge fan then, and it still looks like things haven't improved all that much recently: https://ctrl.blog/entry/review-spideroak

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by metalliqaz »

stryk wrote: post #28
NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

There's rsync.net which very explicitly supports rsync/zfs over SSH

I have an account with rsync.net and I like them a lot for their Unix-friendly services. However, I unfortunately have to recommend that you NOT use rsync.net if you are on a Comcast/Xfinity cable modem.

rsync.net has some kind of problem with the "Powerboost" feature. The first 10 megabytes of a transfer are fast as hell, then it drops to ~150kB/s. Have fun backing up gigabytes at that speed. There is something wrong with their traffic shaping. After much back-and-forth their tech support basically threw up their hands and gave up.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by SyneRyder »

ad_hominem wrote: post #22
ishbits wrote: post #3

This is unfortunate. I chose Crashplan initially due to great family pricing, but more importantly as it had a Linux client. Given I backup Linux home server, a Linux desktop and a Linux laptop this has been its killer feature for me.

This is also what drew me to Crashplan, but I've been irritated with the service long enough that I think I'm glad they've forced my hand. For one, their client is very bad at backing up without affecting other network services; when I'm on a video call I frequently have to pause Crashplan backups entirely or I'll have stream issues (or manually limit the upload speed to something really small that I'll inevitably fo…

> I don't know how they're going to transition to enterprise given their trashy desktop client but good luck.

I kinda feel that makes them perfectly suited for enterprise. I've never thought of enterprise software as having a particularly good user experience coffsharepointcoff

I'm also rather glad CrashPlan forced my hand. There were a lot of good ideas about it (the peer-to-peer features were interesting), but I really hated the Java client. And I always had to pause it's uploads if watching Netflix, because it would saturate the upload channel completely. (On a Mac here, for what it's worth.)

They've given plenty of notice though, so I'm thankful for that.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by joelrunyon »

> We will honor all of our existing agreements with consumers, but we will no longer renew any consumer subscriptions, nor will we sign up any new consumers for Crashplan for Home.

Does that mean they will honor the next month and that's it - or they're completely done?

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by ValentineC »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

Some folks at r/DataHoarder recommend Duplicati: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/6vbcok/crashpl...

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by DCKing »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #18

So what's a good Linux consumer solution? We here are all capable of rolling our own hacks, sure. But I want a good clean friendly product I don't have to configure or think about. The real challenge in these things is the UX for restoring files. (For home-grown options, I've been using rsnapshot for years. But it really works best on a local disk and the rsync-over-ssh hacks I've done are the opposite of "clean cons…

Duplicity [1] is a free software project that creates incremental backups and encrypts them using GPG. It can use Backblaze B2 [2] as a remote synchronization option, which when I looked at options last year was also the cheapest cloud storage provider anywhere (if this has changed, let me know!). Duplicity also supports a very wide array of other cloud storage services if you'd like to use another one [1].

The killer feature Duplicity has for consumer use is that it's probably the only (?) backup program on Linux that has an actual quality desktop GUI called Déja Dup [3] that's included by default in Ubuntu. It works somewhat similar to how Time Machine works on Macs. But if you need to backup headless systems the Duplicity command line interface works fine as well.

When it comes to backup features it's not the most powerful tool compared to some other solutions like Attic or Borg, but I think the GUI and out-of-the-box (encrypted) integration with cloud services make it one of the most user friendly solutions on Linux.

[1]: http://duplicity.nongnu.org/

[2]: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage.html

[3]: https://www.linux.com/learn/total-system-backup-and-recall-d...

[3b:] EDIT: Also Duplicati has a nice web GUI. Worth looking into as well.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by [deleted] »

archagon wrote: post #8

In my mental checklist of evaluating new products and services, Backblaze has always gone above and beyond while Crashplan irritated me enough to make me switch: * Are they one of the market leaders? * Do they have a company blog? Are they passionate about their product? (Backblaze's technical articles are always a treat; barely a word from Crashplan.) * Do they regularly interact with their users, e.g. on HN? (I oft…

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by 5_minutes »

archagon wrote: post #8

In my mental checklist of evaluating new products and services, Backblaze has always gone above and beyond while Crashplan irritated me enough to make me switch: * Are they one of the market leaders? * Do they have a company blog? Are they passionate about their product? (Backblaze's technical articles are always a treat; barely a word from Crashplan.) * Do they regularly interact with their users, e.g. on HN? (I oft…

Their 30 day file retention policy makes all these questions irrelevant.

"Do they have a blog"?

Really? I'm sorry but when it comes to backups I rather have them working on the product instead of having a marketing machine up and running.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by barrkel »

X86BSD wrote: post #29
pavel_lishin wrote: post #5

Well, fuck. Let the suggestions begin - who should I switch to? Bonus points if moving data to a newly purchased hard drive isn't a terrifying process that looks like it's losing all of my backups, as well as Linux/Windows/Mac support.

Tarsnap. Seriously.

Only about 1000 USD per month for what I have in Crashplan - I think I'll give it a pass.
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