Sonos: users must accept new privacy policy or devices may “cease to function”

Post by senectus1 » Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 2:41 PM UTC

zippergz wrote: post #59

mikerice wrote: post #36

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It's so good but still so buggy. Very much a love-hate relationship.

Really? Are there certain services you find to be buggy? I feel like Sonos is one of the least buggy pieces of tech in my house. That's what I love about it. It just works, I don't have to explain to non-technical family members how to work around issues, etc. But we almost exclusively use it for Apple Music and Spotify, so maybe there are some rough edges we haven't encountered.

Post by hellbanner » Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 2:49 PM UTC

dvdhnt wrote: post #60

justinjlynn wrote: post #2

It seems like nobody actually owns anything any more - that we're all just digital serfs living on someone else's land. I really don't know why anyone would willingly make such a deal.

Individuals haven't owned much in a very long time; we've been physical serfs living on someone else's land for even longer. You only "own" something so long as you pay taxes (aka rents) for the right to do so, otherwise someone, usually the government, will take it from you. Even if you don't want to play along, you can only be somewhere public for so long until you're loitering and subject to fines (more rents), co…

Post by squeaky-clean » Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 2:53 PM UTC

crispyambulance wrote: post #26

justinjlynn wrote: post #2

It seems like nobody actually owns anything any more - that we're all just digital serfs living on someone else's land. I really don't know why anyone would willingly make such a deal.

It doesn't seem like a terrible deal ( http://www.sonos.com/en-us/legal/privacy ). What part of the privacy policy do you specifically have an issue with?

Post by pm24601 » Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 2:54 PM UTC

throwaway2016a wrote: post #55

As a Sonos (I have close to $2000 worth of products) user this actually doesn't bother me. To all the people talking about ownership. I find it hard to believe the aux in will cease to work. So worst case is they turn into regular speakers. What it sounds like is you won't be able to update your firmware. So more likely than not, everything would keep working but random Internet related services (like Spotify Integra…

Post by squeaky-clean » Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 2:56 PM UTC

crispyambulance wrote: post #48

ralphm wrote: post #44

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The part where playing audio, including that from 3rd party sources, doesn't need Sonos to get any device usage data. However they still want it 'to improve their service', and you can't turn that off. Not accepting terms means that you'll never get firmware updates.

OK, but "usage data" just doesn't seem like a big deal. Netflix and all other content providers collect "usage data" too, as does the devices these may run on such as "Roku" and other players.