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Post by dsfyu404ed »

hueving wrote: post #130
lsdafjklsd wrote: post #92

my dad is a fox news republican, a few years back we were driving for 5 hours and were listening to npr. he was basically waiting for the overt liberal bias, but instead we listened to a bunch of fascinating stories and interesting shows about a variety of topics. I read somewhere that npr isn't liberally biased, but their fan base is mostly liberal, because liberals tend to prefer news that has no bias. It's also no…

>because liberals tend to prefer news that has no bias You have to be joking. Have you heard of the Huffington Post or MSNBC? Even NPR is heavily biased at the editorial level. Most of the stories are intentionally selected to represent downtrodden folks, rust belt workers/farmers that realize they are closet Democrats, etc. The individual stories will be true but the representation of reality portrayed by the overar…

This. Bias is primarily in what you choose to report.

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Post by eighthnate »

RankingMember wrote: post #208
eighthnate wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've also heard a lot from my conservative friends that NPR is too liberal but to be honest, I haven't seen that at all. Are you being facetious? NPR is extremely liberal. > [1] I'm a Libertarian and thus social liberal and economically conservative which puts me in the great position of being able to laugh at jokes at the expense of either of the two major parties. I'm moderate independent so I too laugh at both s…

> I also don't listen to NPR or watch foxnews as they are a terrible waste of time. You seem to have a lot to say about something you never listen to because it's a "terrible waste of time".

> You seem to have a lot to say about something you never listen to because it's a "terrible waste of time".

Did I say I never listened to them? I used to as a teen and young adult. I was a big fan of NPR. Even was a supporting member and have their tote bag somewhere( WNYC is my station )...

I also used to watched a bit of foxnews, but that was only at work when they had it on.

But the past few years, I grew up. I will still listen to radio lab once in a while if they have an interesting topic and maybe catch wait wait don't tell me ( especially if they have an interesting guest ).

But for the most part, it's gotten old and boring. But that's my opinion. I'm sure yours is different.

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Post by kristopolous »

Moru wrote: post #172
kristopolous wrote: post #136

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If liberal is defined as "not alt-right" then sure. But if you expect to find prominent socialists or leftist political activists or their ideas on NPR, you'll be waiting a long time. Chomsky, nader, said, hedges, parenti ... none of them get mentioned or make an appearance. Who teamed up with Richard Wolff's radio show? NPR? Nope, it was iHeartMedia. You can find these people on Al Jazeera, the CBC, RussiaToday, the…

As a swede I have a hard time understanding what liberal and conservative is. Here we talk about Left and Right politics. I get the impression USA only has Right and Right+ in swedish terms. Left would be social security, right would be free market / privatise everything. I have to admit that I wasn't paying much attention to politics in my schoolyears but I did try to read some political comic book (comedy central?)…

in practice, liberal is the city-life and conservative is the country-life.

This really helps in gerrymandering districts and subdividing the population into two easily manageable groups since they don't talk with one another a lot.

I think the definitions are intentionally designed to keep the public fighting itself with one group always trying to take away the rights of the other so in practice it's slow impoverishment of the commons and a forfeiture of political capital.

Essentially it's a huge scam (or a "scheme" if you think that sounds too conspiratorial). It's not a new scam, and not the first time it's been done - not even the first time in this country. The history of and tactics of union busting in the 1800s and 1900s essentially worked on the same divide-and-conquer techniques of pitting groups of workers against each other.

Going back further, the Indian wars worked in a similar manner ... feigning favoritism or some entitlement to one tribe to create a tribal conflict and prevent the indigenous from being a unified front.

This is the same game ... we call it "democrats" and "republicans" in this version.

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Post by kerbalspacepro »

mrmondo wrote: post #205

Not strictly related to public radio specifically but still interesting on the topic of broadcast radio (and rather disappointing to say the least) - here in Australia we have a big problem with the (lack of) advancement of broadcast quality, while we have DAB+ broadcasts - the stream audio quality is so bad due to the low bit rate - you’re actually better off switching back to FM. The average Australian DAB+ radio s…

When I looked at moving to Australia, the one consistent thread among the "how to move" media was "Australia's homegrown media sucks and everything else is expensive".

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Post by cylinder »

ryandrake wrote: post #90
astrodust wrote: post #46

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Doesn't libertarian mean whatever the hell you want it to be because libertarian?

For quite a while recently, Libertarian meant "Embarrassed Republican Who Doesn't Want To Admit He Votes Republican Every Election Even Though He Swears He Doesn't Like Either Candidate"

"Trust me, I'm an intellectual! I'm not like that awful Sarah Palin."

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Post by chiefalchemist »

donkeyd wrote: post #186
biofox wrote: post #165

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That's an interesting point I hadn't noticed before. Everyone downvoting the comment should read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

It's because the US is slightly messed up in the sense that there's a group of people people who say that they care about "free market" and "less government spending and regulations". At the same time, these people also support protectionism, closed borders and government regulation on things they don't agree with. On the other side, there's a group that is often called liberal, who support open borders and (often) f…

The simple fact is, people really aren't that principled, at least not in the binary Dem vs Rep "two party" system we have. People are interested in one thing. That is, them selves. And they really don't care (read: aren't willing to take action) unless the issue directly effect their back yard.

The idea that America and Americans are principled is a myth. Note: That's not a judgement. Simply an analysis of the historial facts.

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Post by eighthnate »

patrickg_zill wrote: post #197

This is a PR piece. It has no correlative relationship to reality. Source: knowing truckers, having them in my family, extended family, friends of family etc. for 40 years. They all have XM/Sirius at this point. None listen to NPR. Why were no statistics about truckers and NPR quoted? Because they wouldn't have supported the thrust of the article.

Not only that. The publication was founded by the same people who founded PBS and NPR.

"whose members were leaders in founding the PBS and National Public Radio."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_(newspaper)

This article is like an "article" by foxnews saying everyone is listening to foxnews talk radio.

It's pretty much advertisement.

And all the comments here is rather praising NPR is rather suspicious as well.

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Post by MarkMc »

Clubber wrote: post #199
alphaalpha101 wrote: post #117

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I'm not super familiar with American politics. What do you mean by 'fiscally conservative'? You want the Government to lower taxes and lower benefits and such, is that right? Because that sort of 'the market is right, we don't need no government spending in our economy' view.. well.. that just is the same as being economically liberal. But then again Americans seem to use 'liberal' to mean 'left-wing', is that right?…

>What do you mean by 'fiscally conservative'? You want the Government to lower taxes and lower benefits and such, is that right? To me it means balancing the budget and actually working off debt. Right now, that means higher taxes. Being responsible with the treasury rather than borrowing with no intent to pay it back. Spending responsibly and ensuring the spending is not wasteful or kickbacks to political cronies, e…

Why is paying off debt so important when long-term interest rates are so low? For example, the yield on 30-year Treasury Inflation Protected Securities is currently 0.92%. If the government sold these bonds to invest in long-term infrastructure projects, wouldn't that boost the economy enough to outweigh the increase in debt?

https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bon...

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Post by martinald »

prevailrob wrote: post #171

Being from the UK, I take it NPR is the equivalent of Radio 4? (Albeit on a bigger scale, naturally)

Yes. I don't know if it's on a vaslty bigger scale, according to this they spent $220m in operating expenses: http://www.npr.org/about/statements/fy2015/NPR_Consolidated_..., compared to about £90m for R4. Before brexit they would be pretty comparable ;).
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