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Re: Android Oreo

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Post by piyush_soni »

amrrs wrote: post #89

Has Google ever released a report on how much time it takes an average flagship device to get the latest android version? Even if you've paid $$$$ in getting Samsung Galaxy S8 just recently, you're not going to get Android O tomorrow morning. But that's definitely the case with iOS. That makes a huge difference in the world where Software updates play a huge role in performance and functionality than hardware update…

Running Nexus 6P with Android Beta Program enabled. Got the stable Android Oreo in a couple of hours of the release.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by methodin »

spookyuser wrote: post #466
tauntz wrote: post #343

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Don't get me wrong, the feature itself is indeed useful. It's just that its so.. minor. If you ever wanted to implement this in your app then there are multiple ready-made solutions for this or you could write your own in a short amount of time. Presenting this as one of the key new features in a major new OS versions seems just strange.. like there wasn't anything else substantial.

Not only that but would non Android developers even understand the feature?

I imagine there are plenty of instances where apps do not account for space well

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by idonotknowwhy »

0x00000000 wrote: post #69

Android has really been annoying me lately. Maybe I didn't care before but now that I can't root my phone I am forced to deal with it. Still can't disable or customize to stupid "share" menu that puts you one click away from accidentally sending something to a stranger you contacted once on sms or facebook messenger or email. Still can't revoke certain permissions from apps (like vibration). There is zero reason why…

You can use the VPN api, and run a local vpn server on the handset, with adblocking. That's what I do, without root on my new phone.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by snoyberg »

josteink wrote: post #428
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #354

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They want you renting a new phone from them every year. Dragging their feet on updates shifts sales to their newer lineup.

But if a carrier has the nerve to actually block updates to my phone and I find out, I'll switch my phone to another carrier the next day. What's in it for them?

Most people don't think about such things when buying (renting) a new phone. If you do consider it, you're an exception to the rule.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by 2bitencryption »

suckerburg wrote: post #444
simonsarris wrote: post #210

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Reminds me of David Foster Wallace's concept of "subsidized time" in Infinite Jest Year of the Whopper Year of the Tucks Medicated Pad Year of the Trial-Size Dove Bar Android Heath Bar (TM) Android Pocky (TM) http://infinitejest.wallacewiki.com/david-foster-wallace/ind...

Really OT but since you brought it up, I legit just started reading the book yesterday and this is my first DFW book. Looks kinda daunting, any advice?

keep an organized notebook while you read this book. of characters, ideas, events (which happen non-chronologically), etc.

not being pretentious -- you will actually need it. I've been reading this book on and off for about four years now, and wish I had started with a notebook from the beginning.

don't get discouraged if some passages are boring -- make a note of them and just power through them.

it's so, so worth it. I think I'm probably really only "getting" 10% of this book but it's still incredible.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by thaumasiotes »

mkhpalm wrote: post #467
sitepodmatt wrote: post #386

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Android have been promising to finally tackle fragmentation in every release since KitKat. It seems people have a very short memory.

Functional planned obsolescence. Hardware vendors will find a way to break hardware abstraction layers... so they can sell more hardware. Its the business model.

I bought a series of Nexus phones.

The Nexus 5 no longer works.

The Nexus 4 still works, but its battery is puffing out.

The Nexus S has no hardware problems at all, but it's too underpowered to run modern software.

The model "phone vendors nefariously build products with short lifespans, regardless of what people want to buy, so that they can sell more hardware" has trouble explaining why the longest-lived phones are the earliest ones. It seems more likely that the phone vendors of today build phones with short lifespans because bitter experience tells them that building a robust, long-lived phone is all cost and no benefit -- the phone costs more, it's heavier, it's fatter, and all your customers replace it before the cheaper, sleeker, more attractive phone would have failed anyway, meaning they actually get zero minutes of extended lifespan.

It's the same reason animals age and die.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by eicossa »

jfim wrote: post #456
mobilio wrote: post #177

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Same is in Bulgaria. And when you ask them "Hey actual version is 7.0. Why you use outdated OS with vulnerability? How you buy that devices?" They told "I have seen 7.0 there was nothing new." But no one want to get computer with Windows 95 (or 98) anymore. Just Android 4.4 is "OK".

> But no one want to get computer with Windows 95 (or 98) anymore. Just Android 4.4 is "OK". They should do a yearly release (eg. Android 2018). Then at the store when they display phones, they'd have to write "Android 2013" instead of "Android 4.4 KitKat."

Doing yearly releases is such an obviously great idea that there must be a big reason why they are NOT doing it.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by sturmeh »

idonotknowwhy wrote: post #473
0x00000000 wrote: post #69

Android has really been annoying me lately. Maybe I didn't care before but now that I can't root my phone I am forced to deal with it. Still can't disable or customize to stupid "share" menu that puts you one click away from accidentally sending something to a stranger you contacted once on sms or facebook messenger or email. Still can't revoke certain permissions from apps (like vibration). There is zero reason why…

You can use the VPN api, and run a local vpn server on the handset, with adblocking. That's what I do, without root on my new phone.

DNS66 is super annoying if you regularly use a VPN for anything else.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by mavhc »

taeric wrote: post #196
putlake wrote: post #110

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But Apple supports iPhones for 4-5 years. Google has said they will only support their flagship Nexus and Pixel phones for no more than 2 years. For a $700 device this is unacceptable.

Yeah... I didn't realize how annoyed I'd be on this when I bought my Nexus 6. Not getting the latest just seems lazy and makes me want a flip phone that has good audible support. All of the crap that is getting added is just obnoxious and does little to help me use my phone. Bonus points if anyone can tell me why enabling bluetooth will make it so my phone can't charge to 100% anymore.

What can it charge to instead?
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