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Re: Love it or hate it, truckers say they can’t stop listening to public radio

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Post by Aloha »

taurath wrote: post #54
throwaway2016a wrote: post #9

I love NPR. My wife makes fun of me because sometimes I sit in the car with the battery / radio on after I park just to hear a story finish. New Hampshire Public radio has a lot of local news and features too, which I can't hear anywhere else. I'm sure other markets are the same. You can get it on Alexa too because most of the shows are also podcasts which is also great. I've also heard a lot from my conservative fri…

In general it's about story selection. 80% of the "stories of the day" are related to minority rights, empathy stories and a bunch of others. Rural white people are rarely mentioned except in the context of an environmental disaster. I like the stories myself but I definitely feel like the average conservative doesn't feel like they're included in any of the coverage.

NPR before the 2016 election cycle, I'd absolutely agree with you - they've at least started to cover the depravities of the opioid crisis in rural areas now, its a nice change - but I'd agree with you, outside of ATC (All Things Considered) the programming has a huge urban liberal bias.

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Post by matt-attack »

barsonme wrote: post #108
astrodust wrote: post #46

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Doesn't libertarian mean whatever the hell you want it to be because libertarian?

I believe it does have the general premise of very limited government, though.

I believe it's more about defending the rights of minorities. Don't forget that the individual is the ultimate minority group.

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Post by vacri »

astrodust wrote: post #46
barsonme wrote: post #17

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_Probably_ just a typo, imo. Then again, I've never found two libertarians who could agree on what being libertarian actually means, so maybe not.

Doesn't libertarian mean whatever the hell you want it to be because libertarian?

Libertarianism is, at its core, an ethos where skilled people with in-demand skills get to keep all their stuff and pretend that their wealth has nothing to do with other people's inputs. If you want to keep all your stuff, libertarianism is for you. If you want to make it sound like you're being noble when you're actually being selfish, libertarianism is for you.

How many libertarians are poor? How many are minorities? How many are women? The libertarian deck is pretty obviously stacked - it's all about maintaining property rights with zero responsibility; for example, somehow 'taxes' are 'violence', but 'enforcing property rights through the courts and the exact same sheriff that would recover taxes' is 'not violence'. Pick on any libertarian thread and the cloth unravels pretty fast.

The biggest trick the libertarians have pulled, in my opinion, is convincing people that they're the only ones interested in civil rights.

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Post by voltagex_ »

criddell wrote: post #78
mrbill wrote: post #33

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> You can get it on Alexa too because most of the shows are also podcasts which is also great. "Alexa, play NPR" also works. It will use the ZIP code from your Amazon account and play the local NPR affiliate from either TuneIn or iHeartRadio. This is how I listen to it at home - one Echo Dot (connected to a Tivoli Audio Model One) in the "office", and another using its built-in speaker, in the bedroom.

Do you know if you can get it to play out-of-state NPR stations? I'm not a fan of my local affiliate.

I'm Australian, I understand how the affiliate stations work but can you explain what you mean when you say you don't like your local station?

I'm assuming it's the same as wanting to listen to ABC Melbourne when you live in Sydney - but that means missing out on the local news or particular presenters.

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Post by vacri »

barsonme wrote: post #108
astrodust wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't libertarian mean whatever the hell you want it to be because libertarian?

I believe it does have the general premise of very limited government, though.

Limited government, except for the massive expansion of the court system, so that everything can be decided post-facto in the courts rather than beforehand with regulations.

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Post by Barrin92 »

ams6110 wrote: post #47
morganvachon wrote: post #18

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> I'm a Libertarian and thus social conservative and economically liberally That's fascinating; I've been called Libertarian because I'm the opposite. I'm socially progressive yet fiscally conservative, and from what I've read, there are branches of Libertarianism that can embrace either extreme or a mixture. I've listened to NPR since I was a teenager in the early 90s, and while I don't always agree with the comment…

There's liberal as in "tolerate how other people choose to live" and there's liberal as in "spend a lot of money on big government solutions to social problems" and nobody can claim to be libertarian and be liberal in the latter sense.

not in the American sense, but "libertarianism" has long usage in Europe as well, where it's usually associated with 'left libertarian' thinkers such as Orwell, Kropotkin and so forth. Chomsky would be a contemporary example.

Many European anarchists describe themselves as libertarian, in the US the terminology is just not common, so people might be talking past each other here.

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Post by alphaalpha101 »

morganvachon wrote: post #18
throwaway2016a wrote: post #9

I love NPR. My wife makes fun of me because sometimes I sit in the car with the battery / radio on after I park just to hear a story finish. New Hampshire Public radio has a lot of local news and features too, which I can't hear anywhere else. I'm sure other markets are the same. You can get it on Alexa too because most of the shows are also podcasts which is also great. I've also heard a lot from my conservative fri…

> I'm a Libertarian and thus social conservative and economically liberally That's fascinating; I've been called Libertarian because I'm the opposite. I'm socially progressive yet fiscally conservative, and from what I've read, there are branches of Libertarianism that can embrace either extreme or a mixture. I've listened to NPR since I was a teenager in the early 90s, and while I don't always agree with the comment…

I'm not super familiar with American politics. What do you mean by 'fiscally conservative'? You want the Government to lower taxes and lower benefits and such, is that right? Because that sort of 'the market is right, we don't need no government spending in our economy' view.. well.. that just is the same as being economically liberal.

But then again Americans seem to use 'liberal' to mean 'left-wing', is that right? Because that's pretty insane IMO, that's not really what it means anywhere else..

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Post by r00fus »

colordrops wrote: post #99
lsdafjklsd wrote: post #92

my dad is a fox news republican, a few years back we were driving for 5 hours and were listening to npr. he was basically waiting for the overt liberal bias, but instead we listened to a bunch of fascinating stories and interesting shows about a variety of topics. I read somewhere that npr isn't liberally biased, but their fan base is mostly liberal, because liberals tend to prefer news that has no bias. It's also no…

> I read somewhere that npr isn't liberally biased, but their fan base is mostly liberal, because liberals tend to prefer news that has no bias. You don't need to "read somewhere" about whether a news source is biased. You just need to read news across a spectrum of sources. And you will realize that NPR definitely has a liberal bias if you have enough breadth in your sources. I'm a far-left liberal but I'm not afrai…

Funny I remember when Cokie Roberts was pimping Bush during the 2004 elections.

No, NPR's leadership since about the mid-nineties (at least) has been aligned with big business - they are part of the media elite, who collectively, despite the "liberal media" label are actually corporatists (because that's who owns them).

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Post by r00fus »

colordrops wrote: post #100
freehunter wrote: post #52

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Is NPR really liberal, or do conservatives just say that because it doesn't have an explicitly conservative spin? It seems like whenever I hear people talking about "the liberal media", the list of names seems to cover basically any journalism outfit that isn't explicitly and overtly conservative. It feels like anything left of Fox News is commonly labeled as liberal media which seems a little off to me.

I'm a Bernie supporting far left liberal, and NPR has a clear neo-liberal (i.e. central-conservative globalist) agenda.

Because that's who owns the media. The rich and the corporations.

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Post by humanrebar »

r00fus wrote: post #118
colordrops wrote: post #99

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> I read somewhere that npr isn't liberally biased, but their fan base is mostly liberal, because liberals tend to prefer news that has no bias. You don't need to "read somewhere" about whether a news source is biased. You just need to read news across a spectrum of sources. And you will realize that NPR definitely has a liberal bias if you have enough breadth in your sources. I'm a far-left liberal but I'm not afrai…

Funny I remember when Cokie Roberts was pimping Bush during the 2004 elections. No, NPR's leadership since about the mid-nineties (at least) has been aligned with big business - they are part of the media elite, who collectively, despite the "liberal media" label are actually corporatists (because that's who owns them).

There are liberal corporatists. I don't know why that would be a contradiction.
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