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Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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This type of behavior + AMP has pushed me off google completely. I'm determined to cut them out of my technical life entirely, I've even switched myself and everyone I know/support off their DNS. I can't support their shady practices anymore.

What is the benefit of not using their DNS?

Presumably to not supply them your domain usage stats.

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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Google Takeout https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190?hl=en https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Takeout Problems though: if your account is already disabled, you can't use this as far as I can tell; and there's no diff option, it's a monolithic backup each time. But it might provide a strategy to limit data loss resulting from having an account disabled for whatever reason.

What exactly is the file format that one downloads?

Different formats for different services and for some even a choice of formats: iCalendar for Calendar; HTML, CSV or vcard for Contacts; json or KML for location history (Maps); mbox for Gmail... You can see your options before/without exporting anything.

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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It means that the crypto is certainly more solid (roll-your-own is a terrible idea in cryptography) and can in principle interoperate with other OpenPGP implementations, at least once the client supports it. I like ProtonMail a lot, but full disclosure: I work there, so I'm biased.

Is ProtonMail your only active email account?

I have a legacy ones in case old/forgotten contacts send me a message, but they all forward to ProtonMail.

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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No idea what all was on his blog and other google accounts, but according to the article they were used for his work at the university. Also some credible sites like the NYT linking into the disabled blog: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/19/business/the-stock-market... Google may have had some good reasons or it may have just been an example of ML discriminating against a name like Salil. Either way, it's very distur…

Er, Google has millions of users who have absolutely no problems. One (or even dozens) of bad stories is a tiny percentage of the interactions that take place on their services. It's _far_ more likely to be a mistake than anything untoward, just based on the sheer numbers.

If you hear of someone opening their Life cereal and finding a rat inside it from the factory, you're less likely to buy Life cereal, aren't you?

I certainly am. That rat might be rare, but the system that allowed it to go out isn't one I can trust implicitly.

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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post #134

Google Takeout https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190?hl=en https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Takeout Problems though: if your account is already disabled, you can't use this as far as I can tell; and there's no diff option, it's a monolithic backup each time. But it might provide a strategy to limit data loss resulting from having an account disabled for whatever reason.

What exactly is the file format that one downloads?

Contacts vcf; Chrome stuff is html and json; Drive is exactly the files in Drive (as is) including directories; Photos directory also has a metadata.json file for each directory and then one for each image, haven't looked at the contents; Hangouts is json and png; Keep is html; Mail is a single file "All mail Including Spam and Trash.mbox"; Voice is html and mp3; Wallet is csv.

These are all put into either a zip, tgz or tbz. The different archive formats have different max download sizes. Looks like the tbz has a 50G download size limit.

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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This type of behavior + AMP has pushed me off google completely. I'm determined to cut them out of my technical life entirely, I've even switched myself and everyone I know/support off their DNS. I can't support their shady practices anymore.

Any suggestions for alternatives to 8.8.8.8? Is OpenDNS any good?

I used to use OpenDNS several years ago (before it was bought by Cisco), but also faced some issues not directly related to the DNS service and stability. OpenDNS allowed people to create accounts and specific blacklists/whitelists. That, when combined with the OpenDNS app (same user account) that would run on the users' computers, would tell OpenDNS which sites to block for which source IP address (the user's) even for those with dynamic IP addresses from their ISP. Being on a connection with a dynamic IP address, once in a while I'd get the IP address of someone else who had the OpenDNS filtering setup and hadn't run the OpenDNS app or it somehow failed to report back (or the time between the periodic pings from the app with the IP address update). When I used OpenDNS servers during those times, I would get blocked out of sites and get weird custom messages that those users had setup. The only solution was to create an account myself on OpenDNS, run the OpenDNS app on all my systems, and trigger an IP address update back to OpenDNS from the app if at all something didn't work.

I'm guessing the same filtering support still exists, called Home Internet Security. [1]

One tool I have used in the past to benchmark DNS servers and choose is namebench. [2] It seems like the last releases were in 2010, but it worked for me even a few years ago (haven't checked after that).

[1]: https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/

[2]: https://code.google.com/archive/p/namebench/

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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I wonder how much I would lose if my Gmail was deleted... Everything I have is behind that address. What would be my best bet to move to if I'm too much of a bad to host my own email?

One idea: Use Google email but from a custom domain -- it doesn't back-up your email, but you can update the DNS to a new provider if you get locked out of Google's services. This means you can still recover accounts, use the same email, etc after a brief disruption, instead of totally hosed. It's not a total solution, but it does mitigate some problems, which makes Google's policies easier to swallow. (If you do sep…

Google Apps/whatever-its-currently-called used to be free for private use - this is no longer the case?

Re: Statistics Professor Just Banned by Google: Here Is His Story

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This type of behavior + AMP has pushed me off google completely. I'm determined to cut them out of my technical life entirely, I've even switched myself and everyone I know/support off their DNS. I can't support their shady practices anymore.

What is the benefit of not using their DNS?

Not giving them this information.

Every question to Google is an answer for Google.

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