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In his tweets on Aug 15th he suggests that the Charlottesville incident has not hurt Trumps popularity. Kinda scary, but if true we should be addressing it as is instead of burying it. Edit: it looks like Trump has actually had a small increase in popularity

That's also been covered in mainstream media, it's not why he was blocked.

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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Google took down his blog, too: http://statisticalideas.blogspot.com/ Last archive.org copy: [1] (Useless; it just displays a "Blogger gear", because the content is dynamically loaded.) [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20170518181642/http://statistica...

it just displays a "Blogger gear", because the content is dynamically loaded

I wonder why Google made that particular design decision?

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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Contrary to some of the other comments, I highly doubt there's any political agenda at play here. More likely, this user inadvertently tripped some automated algorithm somewhere, and then failed the automated appeals process. That said, it's their service and their rules. Don't host data you care about on free services run by capricious multinationals.

Automated algorithms have agendas too, and very unreliable ones. That does not make them better, but worse.

Automated algorithms have agendas too, and very unreliable ones.

No, they are perfectly reliable. They exactly mirror the agenda of whoever curated the training set.

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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Google took down his blog, too: http://statisticalideas.blogspot.com/ Last archive.org copy: [1] (Useless; it just displays a "Blogger gear", because the content is dynamically loaded.) [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20170518181642/http://statistica...

it just displays a "Blogger gear", because the content is dynamically loaded I wonder why Google made that particular design decision?

That probably predates Google's acquisition of Blogger.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

it just displays a "Blogger gear", because the content is dynamically loaded I wonder why Google made that particular design decision?

That probably predates Google's acquisition of Blogger.

Odd tho'. This mechanism defeats caching; it must cost them cash money to run on that architecture vs generating then serving static pages, perhaps only dynamically fetching comments. Someone at Google thinks it's worth paying for the ability to erase blogs entirely.

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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caseydurfee: > this is a ludicrous accusation -- the new definition of hate speech? slackstation: > This has to be a mistake. > it was probably someone who saw one of these procative headlines and marked this blog for deletion without looking or realizing who this person was. redm: > It does indeed seem he was shut down, but it's unclear as to "why" it was done. Google's standard black box in effect. ForHackernews: >…

Here on HN I was introduced to the characterization of our current political gridlock as a "cold civil war", which is, perhaps, manifest in this post.

Manifest in the thread. I am in agreement with the parent!

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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At the risk of being tangential to the topic: Let this be a friendly reminder that if you, like me, use google services heavily, it may be in your best interest to do regular backups of your account state. (I have no affiliation etc; I just realized when reading this that it had been almost a year since my last backup) Here's a link to support documenting "how". https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190?hl=e…

Great I'll just throw it on my ....Google drive. Dammit.

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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"If you show probability work like Hillary having lower election odds, then this is new definition of hate speech." I get that the guy is angry. I would be too if I got locked out of my accounts, but this is a ludicrous accusation -- the new definition of hate speech? "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity." The idea that google is waging war on this guy because of election predictions he made…

Jordan Peterson, a psychology professor, also got locked out of his account. He also happens to have incorrect views. Have any other professors been locked out of their account?

Re: Statistics professor at Columbia and Georgetown banned from all Google services

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This has to be a mistake. Whenever you outright ban someone with the minimalist interaction the way Google does it, you open yourself up to accusations of all kinds of suppression. You allow the person who being banned to define why they were in the absence of any message from Google. Now, it's all well and good to go and ban white supremacists, KKK members, hate groups, etc. It's monumental stupidity to ban an acade…

> It's even ineffective.

I wouldn't be so sure. Do this to a few people and thousands of others start to mince their words. It could be extremely effective if it were employed as a political strategy, because being locked out of your Google account is a major problem for most people.

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