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Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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I wonder how many Programmers here using Macbook Pro need an Iris Graphics? Compared to this newest UHD 620 ( Which really is just HD 620 with HDMI 2.2 support ), the Skylake Iris Graphics is rougly 50% to 60% faster. But with Kaby Lake Refresh you get Quad Core instead of Dual Core. I wonder how many would prefer to have a Quad Core Macbook Pro 13" instead. * These 15W parts can be TDP Config up to 25W. Which Fits t…

Integrated graphics are great for the power savings but a 2015 Macbook Pro can not drive a 4K display higher than 24 frames per second.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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> Intel’s big aim with the new processors is, as always, to tackle the growing market of 3-5+ year old devices still being used today, quoting better performance, a better user experience, longer battery life, and fundamentally new experiences when using newer hardware. Two years ago Intel quoted 300 million units fit into this 3-5+ year window; now that number is 450 million. Yep, Intel's problem is that most folks…

>> It already had enough processing power for everything they wanted (browsing, office, youtube, etc.) Today's Javascript-packed web pages and HD YouTube content are pushing people to upgrade from their Core 2 Duo and early i5 machines.

My $130 lenovo Chromebook runs everything such as Cloud 9 IDE on the web except Facebook, that doesn't work.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

#94

> Intel’s big aim with the new processors is, as always, to tackle the growing market of 3-5+ year old devices still being used today, quoting better performance, a better user experience, longer battery life, and fundamentally new experiences when using newer hardware. Two years ago Intel quoted 300 million units fit into this 3-5+ year window; now that number is 450 million. Yep, Intel's problem is that most folks…

The big grief I have with "general computing" platforms is their insistence of sticking with the traditional form factor. ATX, ITX, PCI- , DDR ...outdated, overboard, clunky designs for most people. Take a Mac Mini-like design, and make modules that can stack or otherwise attach to expand capabilities. IMO, this is what Apple should do and be done with the whole "But Mac Pro users ...!" A project Ara-like desktop, bo…

There's probably a PC-104 [1] updated standard which might fit.

Being designed for industrial slash embedded environments, you typically will not get the latest and greatest chips slash chipsets.

[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC/104

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Good to see lower power usage but the one thing I still feel is missing is widespread support for ECC on the desk(lap)top.

Funny thing is, back in the days of the PC XT (8086/8088), AT 286 and 386, all (or most?) computers had parity check (9 bits RAM). I rather prefer a halt error than silent corruption.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

#96
post #92
post #80

I wonder how many Programmers here using Macbook Pro need an Iris Graphics? Compared to this newest UHD 620 ( Which really is just HD 620 with HDMI 2.2 support ), the Skylake Iris Graphics is rougly 50% to 60% faster. But with Kaby Lake Refresh you get Quad Core instead of Dual Core. I wonder how many would prefer to have a Quad Core Macbook Pro 13" instead. * These 15W parts can be TDP Config up to 25W. Which Fits t…

Integrated graphics are great for the power savings but a 2015 Macbook Pro can not drive a 4K display higher than 24 frames per second.

That's an HDMI limitation. With DisplayPort, my early 2015 MBP drives my Dell P2715Q at 60Hz.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

#97

I remember seeing claims of 15-30% improved single-threaded performance. Does anyone know how legitimately I should take these? They sound way too good to be true...

Typically the claims of heavily improved single threaded performance are "up to x% faster", and the only time you see those peak performance improvements are during uncommon benchmarks.

Until full reviews come out it's hard to say how much of improvement across the board we'll see, but recently 2-3% ipc improvement on average plus whatever boost to frequency seems to be standard per release.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

#98
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious what your use case is that entails ECC? Are you currently being held back without it?

This shouldn't de downvoted, it's a fair question. Just a few years ago ECC was widely considered an unnecessary belt-and-suspenders thing that made enterprise hardware expensive. I guess the general perception changed with the Rowhammer attack.

I don't think so. Well before Rowhammer, Google published their paper showing the high amount of memory errors they get.

What's changed is higher memory densities, making it even more important.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

#99
Just my two cents but I would still expect them to annouce coffee lake today. If you look at the marketing material they talk about VR and have a picture of a desktop monitor when referring to editing. I dont see how notebooks can provide you an "immersive VR experience".

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

#100

> Intel’s big aim with the new processors is, as always, to tackle the growing market of 3-5+ year old devices still being used today, quoting better performance, a better user experience, longer battery life, and fundamentally new experiences when using newer hardware. Two years ago Intel quoted 300 million units fit into this 3-5+ year window; now that number is 450 million. Yep, Intel's problem is that most folks…

The big grief I have with "general computing" platforms is their insistence of sticking with the traditional form factor. ATX, ITX, PCI- , DDR ...outdated, overboard, clunky designs for most people. Take a Mac Mini-like design, and make modules that can stack or otherwise attach to expand capabilities. IMO, this is what Apple should do and be done with the whole "But Mac Pro users ...!" A project Ara-like desktop, bo…

Plenty of PC makers do that, even Intel:

https://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/products/boards-kits/...

No idea what any of that has to do with ATX, PCI (long deprecated technology), ITX (form factor), DDR (that's like USB).

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