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Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Oooh moving to a baseline of 4 cores; this means we'll see quad core Lenovo X1 Carbons / Ultrabooks soon. :) I for one am excited.

Do you happen to have any idea how long we'll have to wait for that? Might they be out in a month, or might it take a few more?

I'm guessing January next year with February availability, going by previous releases. (This is purely my own speculation, considering CES/previous releases.)

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Do you happen to have any idea how long we'll have to wait for that? Might they be out in a month, or might it take a few more?

I'm guessing January next year with February availability, going by previous releases. (This is purely my own speculation, considering CES/previous releases.)

Thanks! :) Do you think this would be the case for the first quad-core ultrabooks/notebooks as well, or just these particular Lenovo products would take that long? I haven't been keeping up with CPU releases so I don't recall how long it takes for them to reach the portable market...

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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I remember seeing claims of 15-30% improved single-threaded performance. Does anyone know how legitimately I should take these? They sound way too good to be true...

Maybe per watt?

That's not the impression I got, but I'm not well-versed in the marketing terminology. Is that the impression you get from here? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/intel-claims-30-perf...

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Oooh moving to a baseline of 4 cores; this means we'll see quad core Lenovo X1 Carbons / Ultrabooks soon. :) I for one am excited.

Even if you don't use multi-threaded applications much, the doubling in L3 itself should help a lot.

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Maybe per watt?

That's not the impression I got, but I'm not well-versed in the marketing terminology. Is that the impression you get from here? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/intel-claims-30-perf...

I might miss something in that article, but this 15-30% performance increase when pitting a dual core against a quad core is pretty bad. I don't see the mention of single thread performance. It talks about overall benchmark performance.

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Even AMD think of it as such. Ryzen doesn't have it disabled on the desktop, but AMD haven't validated it either.

Didn't AMD employees confirm it a few times on the web already ?

ECC is working with AMD if the motherboard supports it, but you can't always be sure that the motherboard does support it correctly. You need to rely on user reports/what the motherboard producer promises, instead of it being a default feature that always works.

Still a lot more than what Intel offers in that space.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the impression I got, but I'm not well-versed in the marketing terminology. Is that the impression you get from here? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/intel-claims-30-perf...

I might miss something in that article, but this 15-30% performance increase when pitting a dual core against a quad core is pretty bad. I don't see the mention of single thread performance. It talks about overall benchmark performance.

I'm pretty sure they mean single-threaded, but I've seen different numbers floating around. Here I see between 11-29% depending on the model: https://videocardz.com/72112/intel-claims-i7-8700k-to-be-11-...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might miss something in that article, but this 15-30% performance increase when pitting a dual core against a quad core is pretty bad. I don't see the mention of single thread performance. It talks about overall benchmark performance.

I'm pretty sure they mean single-threaded, but I've seen different numbers floating around. Here I see between 11-29% depending on the model: https://videocardz.com/72112/intel-claims-i7-8700k-to-be-11-...

Okay. Well, you should wait for benchmarks. If like in the anandtech article mentioned the clock rate gets decreased, and that would be very normal when adding more cores, then a single thread performance increase is very unlikely. In the last launch Intel did not get close to those numbers, and that was without a core increase.

Also, there seems to be some confusion whether those processors now are a kaby lake refresh or the new coffee lake architecture. The videocardz article mentions Coffee Lake (and some other news articles call those processors that as well), but the anandtech article defines them as a Kaby Lake Refresh. A new architecture would make a single thread performance increase more likely.

Re: Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby Lake Refresh

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Oooh moving to a baseline of 4 cores; this means we'll see quad core Lenovo X1 Carbons / Ultrabooks soon. :) I for one am excited.

Do you happen to have any idea how long we'll have to wait for that? Might they be out in a month, or might it take a few more?

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