lol
You should definitely invest in learning how to communicate with others also.
Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
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Nah. I don't need to care about the reactions of strangers on the internet. If you act like someone who needs to be called out, I'll call you out. I genuinely don't care. Lol.
Then don't comment on threads to strangers online if you genuinely don't care.
Re: Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
#133A buddy of mine was working in the lab of the scientist who "invented" unnatural amino acid technology (rumblings about how it was taken from the postdoc in the lab across the hall). That was the sexy project de jour of the lab; but my buddy was working on a less sexy project - catalytic antibodies. This is where you take the concept that antibodies can be adapted to fit any molecular shape and try to make it fit som…
I see a lot of these burnout stories are about PhDs, and I've been there. The key to getting out is frequently to stop listening to your advisors. You're ready to graduate when you tell them what you're doing, not the other way around.
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#134To handle stress and not burn out, you need:
1) A sense of self. You need to not just understand but to feel that no matter what happens at the office, and even if things go wrong, you'll be OK. You do this by having a life outside of work - friends and a social life not connected to your workplace or even industry, hobbies or side projects that give you confidence outside of your professional life, and people who care about you for non-professional reasons.
2) To compartmentalize. Work is work, and just part of your life. While it cannot be completely so, what happens at work shouldn't affect your outside life in too large a degree. Success at work should bring you some kind of satisfaction, and failure should make you reconsider your choices, but not to a too large extent. You can only compartmentalize if you have the things in 1); you need more than 1 thing that is important to you in your life.
If you overwork, you can't have 1) because you simple don't have the time or energy to cultivate it; you can't compartmentalize and leave work at the office, and work pressure will cause negative stress in all aspects of your life, resulting in burn out.
Even in high-level positions you should aim to stick to a 9-5 schedule as much as possible because otherwise you won't have the mental energy to be effective.
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Can you talk a little more about "the prison of an office" and why you consider an office this way? You say that you're tired of taking orders, and I can relate to this... but do you feel so oppressed from above that you absolutely must be "butt in seat" at 9:00 AM Or Else Death? I felt this way when I was younger fresh out of university and not so much anymore, and I don't believe I've become Institutionalized to su…
I don't understand how people manage to be in an office with their boring-ass jobs from 9-5 Monday through Friday till eternity (excluding their measly 2-3 weeks of vacation). I honestly think most people lack consciousness. For one, it's boring, monotonous, and soul-sucking. Which might be manageable, except with commuting and such you're looking at 9 hours/day wasted, and the bulk of your mental energy drained. Add…
I personally think that with the current rate of automation, jobs would be eventually elemntated pretty soon and we need a viable solution, besides creating more meaningless jobs.
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#136It's happening right now, for me. Burnout feels like having no purchase on life, nothing making sense, no creativity, no joy, just fleeting comforts amid growing and deepening discomfort. The way I see it, this kind of tiredness can't be met by a good night's sleep. It's a tiredness of the soul. Sadly, what I have found is that to cope with the tiredness, boredom, stress and loneliness of my 'successful' life, I have…
I’d recommend going to a meditation retreat.
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I can relate. I'm five years into a similar situation and trying daily to recover my attitude to risk. It's no surprise that I've discovered an interest in academia. What do you think it would take to get you to get excited on a side project again?
I honestly don't know. I do embedded for work, and have no problem there, maybe because it is very low-level and doesn't have a UI or run on a PC. I have had ideas, but when I'm home and I open the IDE, I sit there a while, stare at it, and then close it.
My first startup, 3.5 years of blood and tears, literally walked away with nothing (internal politics). No equity, I couldn't afford to exercise my options.
Also, wanted to quickly add, i also had to pay out thousands in legal advice to even keep my options! we didn't even get proper option certificates in the years i was there...place was a mess.
Re: Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
#138It's happening right now, for me. Burnout feels like having no purchase on life, nothing making sense, no creativity, no joy, just fleeting comforts amid growing and deepening discomfort. The way I see it, this kind of tiredness can't be met by a good night's sleep. It's a tiredness of the soul. Sadly, what I have found is that to cope with the tiredness, boredom, stress and loneliness of my 'successful' life, I have…
Maybe you will begin to see this problem which has plagued you and many other alike since youth as what is really is: Many different problem-types, with which you can familiarize yourself through structured exercise, just as you would exercise familiarity with written composition, software design or design OSS or pet software products. That is, maybe you can steer into what you've been evading your whole life (or your adult life), and treat with more of a nonchalant, indifferent, bordering on optimistic temperament; give it a goddamned name, examine get to know explicitly what it's into, when and where it's available, and what's been motivating you to conquer it like you conquered that last big thing you can think of.... (But writing this out kinda feels like an armchair prescription for another visit.)
"This is Water" is a David Foster Wallace speech that isn't necessarily appropriate for this subject, but I suppose it is since, somewhere in it he says,
"How to keep from going through your comfortable, prosperous, respectable adult life dead, unconscious, a slave to your head and to your natural default-setting of being uniquely, completely, imperially alone, day in and day out", then, "A slave to your 'Default Setting'", and ultimately onto, "[the] 'Truth' is about life Before death."
In it, he eventually lands on his theme, which is that we're not alone in regularly betraying our aspirations to each of our own "examined lives", and that there's something that's inherently insidious and subversive in our unexamined, reflexive thoughts, assumptions and beliefs. He likens this tendency of ours, this "Default Setting", to an ocean's Water, of which we should remain critical, and vigilant as we navigate and observe our reflexive thoughts and reactions. He suggests that we can avoid a kind of "Waking Death" through the resilient and continued practice of modest, critical awareness and acknowledgement of our subversive tendencies.
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#139Wanted to achieve lot in my life. And saw money as means to do that. Was ambitious, working hard. Left the job, founded company. Worked my ass off for 5 years. Failed. But earned enough so that for the last 2 years haven't been really working while trying to get my shit together (although soon the savings will run dry). Ruined my marriage with the only person I really cared about. Can't get any motivation to do anyth…
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> When I woke up one morning, everything seemed really blurred. I could not precisely get where I was in the room and, when I tried to talk to my parents, they seemed really far away. I was also deeply tired and just wanted to sleep. Things seeming too far away is called Teleopsia. I experience Alice In Wonderland Syndrome[1]. Last time I managed to get an audience with a neurologist - the top one in this hospital, b…
Whaou, really interesting. Sounds really like what I experienced. So maybe it was not a burnout. Thanks, you are better than my neurologist :p
Of course it's the Internet and every advice must be taken with a grain of salt. But you never know.
A close friend to my sister was getting more and more tired. She had multiples examination but her doctor could not find what she had.
First luck she had, her father is a doctor, so she could talk to hers more easily that you or I could.
Second luck she had, while one of those talks, another doctor passed by and heard them talking. It appears that she knew the symptoms from another patient she had in her own country and they finally could put a name on her illness (I can't recall what it was, and it's a very rare disease that explained no one knew about it)
Third luck she had is that it was about time. 2 weeks later she would have die.
So my point is, doctors are not as smart as they believe they are. And telling your story every time it's related to the conversation might result in a discovery like that.
Hope your health stays ok !