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Google Secretly Invested In Zynga, Preparing To Launch Google Games

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Re: Google Secretly Invested In Zynga, Preparing To Launch Google Games

#101

This is great news for China. While the Silicon Valley gets rotten from inside, making this useless stuff, they will be buying bankrupt US chip companies and making their own microprocessors.

You consider Zynga, a company with a ridiculous amount of attention from users, and expected to hit $1Bn revenues next year, useless?

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#102
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I think Google's worry about Facebook (partly justified, partly not) is starting to cause them to make pointless (and time wasting) decisions. If I had 5mins with Sergei and Larry, I would say (after taking a long sip from the free organic drink I just got from the snack bar we're standing next to) "Look, the real enemy is not FB but Apple (and sometimes your own engineering hubris, e.g. Buzz), so focus all your troo…

Well, I don't know you but many people around me are living their lifes deep into Facebook.Facebook is an Internet inside Internet and that's very dangerous.

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Farmville is evil; Zynga makes Farmville; Google invested in Zynga. Q.E.D. ;-)

Google bought DoubleClick. They were tainted from then on, as far as I'm concerned. DoubleClick had a known shady history, and executives from DC moved into positions of influence within Google.

Just curious, what terrible things has DoubleClick done since being bought by Google? If anything, I'd say Google 'tainted' them and not the other way around.

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#104
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The games are designed to be addictive, not fun in the long term. You could argue the same about WoW but at least in that case there is a lot to do over a long period before you truly get into the addictive repetition phase. Something like farmville is pretty much that from the start.

The games are designed to be addictive, not fun in the long term. Sorry, but I think you're pulling that out of your ass. All (good) games are addictive to some degree, precisely because they're fun, and I bet if you surveyed all the people who play Farmville, virtually all of them would say they enjoy it and are having fun. Don't confuse "I don't enjoy it" with "No one enjoys it."

These pop psychology articles prove you wrong. Gaming companies strive deliberately to make their games addicting. And by addicting I mean addicting, not fun.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-gam... + http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_d...

The techniques that I'll discuss in this article generally fall under the heading of behavioral psychology. Best known for the work done on animals in the field, behavioral psychology focuses on experiments and observable actions. One hallmark of behavioral research is that most of the major experimental discoveries are species-independent and can be found in anything from birds to fish to humans. What behavioral psychologists look for (and what will be our focus here) are general "rules" for learning and for how minds respond to their environment.

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#105
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Just throwing this out there: I consider it unethical to invest in Zynga. Edit: They are essentially using psychology, social and otherwise, to ultimately trick people out of their money. A classic on the topic: http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/31/scamville-the-social-gaming...

And when did corporations start having morals or even ethics? Google is just interested in the $$$.

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#106
post #29

I think Google's worry about Facebook (partly justified, partly not) is starting to cause them to make pointless (and time wasting) decisions. If I had 5mins with Sergei and Larry, I would say (after taking a long sip from the free organic drink I just got from the snack bar we're standing next to) "Look, the real enemy is not FB but Apple (and sometimes your own engineering hubris, e.g. Buzz), so focus all your troo…

And I like to think they'd respond, "Look Jun8, in 12 years we've built a company worth upwards of 150 billion dollars, and you've amassed roughly 844 karma points."

It's good to know that companies worth billions never make mistakes that drive that value down. Certainly never down to nothing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, actually, it is just a stupid waste of everyone's time.

Other than you not liking it, how is it fundamentally different from any other game?

Reflective games aren't a waste of a time (that allows you think and reflect on a situation thereby improving the way you learn things) but games that put you on an expert(or relax)-mode definitely are a waste of time--imho. I mean this is true when talking about games but probably in true in other situations e.g. you wouldn't like a Pilot who wants to reflect on a situation when plane and 400 passengers are in danger (taken from a Psychology book whose name I cannot recall) :)

Re: Google Secretly Invested In Zynga, Preparing To Launch Google Games

#108
post #29

I think Google's worry about Facebook (partly justified, partly not) is starting to cause them to make pointless (and time wasting) decisions. If I had 5mins with Sergei and Larry, I would say (after taking a long sip from the free organic drink I just got from the snack bar we're standing next to) "Look, the real enemy is not FB but Apple (and sometimes your own engineering hubris, e.g. Buzz), so focus all your troo…

And I like to think they'd respond, "Look Jun8, in 12 years we've built a company worth upwards of 150 billion dollars, and you've amassed roughly 844 karma points."

LOL, I've collected that much karma in less than a year. Given 12 years, God knows where I'll go!

Seriously, I'd like to think that your comment was a joke. Because if a company cannot learn from foot soldiers in the domain and gets cocky, stagnation and eventually death is close at hand. I hope Google is not at that point (like Microsoft)

Re: Google Secretly Invested In Zynga, Preparing To Launch Google Games

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Look, the real enemy is not FB but Apple The first thing I thought of when I read this news was precisely that it was targeted at matching Apple. All of a sudden Apple has come out of nowhere as a gaming force, threatening even Nintendo's portable gaming systems. Google investing in gaming looks like a move to reinforce their offerings in this department.

And the funny thing is, Apple doesn't give a shit about gaming.

iPod touch?

Re: Google Secretly Invested In Zynga, Preparing To Launch Google Games

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, actually, it is just a stupid waste of everyone's time.

Other than you not liking it, how is it fundamentally different from any other game?

I didn't claim that it was but let's assume I did for a minute.

1) no fine motor control involved

2) no complex puzzle solving

3) no storytelling

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I don't really play video games but it is pretty obvious that FarmVille is much different than games you'd play on your television.

And of course motivations differ, too. FarmVille makes more money by consuming your time and taking advantage of your impulses and desire for short-term rewards than most traditional games do.

Zynga isn't really a game company. They don't care about video games as an art form or even as an entertainment medium, they just care about behavior games and milking people out of money with as little effort as possible. It is like a casino that never pays out.

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