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A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by pavel_lishin »

WalterSear wrote: post #62
lostcolony wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's silly. Find a job elsewhere willing to pay them to relocate again.

And interview, how? And find it, how? Who will recommend them? You're asking why they don't just eat cake. These things aren't impossible, just so much harder that my friends (One in Idaho, one in Kansas) haven't been able to manage it, and not for lack of trying. It has been hard to watch them floundering and begging for help I don't have to give.

> And interview, how? And find it, how? Who will recommend them?

I got a job in New York, while living in Dallas.

Interview: by flying in on an airplane, staying in a cheap hotel, and lining up a few interviews a day for a few days.

Finding it: There's not a shortage of job sites, or recruiters breaking down your inbox.

Recommendations: your former coworkers and friends won't assume you get lead poisoning in the rust belt; they can still recommend you to others, and jobs to you.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by pavel_lishin »

ryandrake wrote: post #90
WalterSear wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And interview, how? And find it, how? Who will recommend them? You're asking why they don't just eat cake. These things aren't impossible, just so much harder that my friends (One in Idaho, one in Kansas) haven't been able to manage it, and not for lack of trying. It has been hard to watch them floundering and begging for help I don't have to give.

Yea, that's why I live in the Bay Area. Not because I'm so in love with it but because if I move to Flyover, Arkansas, and end up losing/hating the job, where the hell am I going to go? That's right--moving again!

> That's right--moving again!

Why is that bad? Is it a question of inherent stability, or do you have a wife and child who don't want to get dragged around on your job-leash?

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by andrewflnr »

ransom1538 wrote: post #41
Twirrim wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as if you believe there are only 3 tech companies in Seattle. Heck, those 3 aren't even the only big tech companies in Seattle, there's Apple, Facebook, Oracle, Twitter, etc. etc. let alone all the other smaller ones. There's more tech companies here than you can shake a stick at.

Apple - is in Cupertino Facebook - Menlo Park Oracle - Redwood Shores Twitter - San francisco Having an office with paint that says 'Twitter' doesn't mean 'Twitter' is in Seattle. Satellite offices are rarely taken seriously.

An office doesn't have to "taken seriously", whatever that means, to provide you a job, which is all we're talking about. WalterSear even mentioned a satellite office in his post.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#104

Post by adenner »

dgfgfdagasdfgfa wrote: post #10
stevecalifornia wrote: post #7

Move to Washington State. Don't pay California income tax. Instant 8% boost to your take-home pay.

Denver is even better—competitive wages w/ washington & lower cost of living.

Des Moines is the same way.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by ringaroundthetx »

cryptoz wrote: post #78
ringaroundthetx wrote: post #74

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> All the companies in California are actually Delaware companies, and the income inequality and quality-of-life disparity is a direct result of this kind of corruption. Why would you call that corruption? Corruption from whose perspective? How much impact do you think that has on roads being maintained or not (or more generally, local/state funding and budget management)?

Look at the corruption like gerrymandering. Systematic wealth collection by mega corporations and individuals, structured to increase their wealth and the expense of the poor. A structure that allows for this is a corrupt structure. To answer your question, I would say this has has high impact on the quality of life here, including the roads, education systems, policing, safety, and everything else in society. Everyt…

> Look at the corruption like gerrymandering.

> Systematic wealth collection by mega corporations and individuals, structured to increase their wealth and the expense of the poor.

What do these have to do with different income tax rates in separate states?

Its like you had a google alert on "corruption" and had all those responses on your clipboard regardless of the context.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by ringaroundthetx »

briandear wrote: post #82
cryptoz wrote: post #61

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> From someone outside the US, I'm amazed that states vary their income tax so much, I would have thought it's a magnet for fraud and corruption. It is. Roads in the Bay Area are among the worst in the country, despite this region producing enormous corporate profits. Nearly all the companies here operate in an eternal tragedy of the commons, whereby nobody will pay local taxes because nobody else does. All the compa…

How does that cause income inequality? Taxes ought having nothing to do with income equality. The purpose of taxes is to pay for the operation of government, not to “solve” income inequality. Taxes are meant to pay for government. The United States isn’t socialist. I also don’t think you understand how corporate taxes work. A Delaware company operating in California does pay California taxes.

No idea how you got downvoted.

My approach was to ask OP for elaboration just for the comedy of watching their argument fall apart, but with the opportunity that they had a sound clarification or new information I hadn't considered.

Today we got comedy.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by mdbennett »

salimmadjd wrote: post #64

Interesting podcast. I didn't know about Zapier so I checked out their website. It took me like 5-10 minutes to understand what they do. It was only after seeing the Gmail(attachment) > DropBox > Slack I understood what they really do. Which is very cool. I have one need. I want a quick way of converting a list of stuff on slack into todo list with ability to check off the task as they're completed. OR if I can have…

Zapier Support here. The most common way I see people do this is by starring Slack messages they want to add as Todos. Here's a template that uses Todoist, although there's no shortage of alternatives on that side of things: https://zapier.com/app/editor/template/1580

Outside of that, you can build a zap that triggers on any message and use a Filter step to make sure only messages that meet your criteria(e.g. your keyword) move on to the action: https://zapier.com/help/how-get-started-filters-zapier/

If your ultimate goal is to manage the todo list from inside Slack, there's not a great way to do that with Zapier. Personally, I manually add/delete items in my 'You' channel to get to that type of functionality.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by ryandrake »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #102
ryandrake wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, that's why I live in the Bay Area. Not because I'm so in love with it but because if I move to Flyover, Arkansas, and end up losing/hating the job, where the hell am I going to go? That's right--moving again!

> That's right--moving again! Why is that bad? Is it a question of inherent stability, or do you have a wife and child who don't want to get dragged around on your job-leash?

Sure, family, children, friends, community ties. The things that make constant moving a pain in the ass as you get older.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by BeetleB »

sabujp wrote: post #2

"was if you're in the Bay Area and you take a job with Zapier we'll pay $10,000 to help you relocate to anywhere, or as we call it, de-locate." ..so this is just a one time re-location "bonus"? I think many large companies "pay you" something close to this amount to re-locate to the bay area. This really doesn't help that much. What would be better is to pay bay area salaries/rates in another part of the country that…

Heck, I moved half way across the country and I got about that much for relocation.

Neither location involved the Bay area.

This seems to be the standard (and not special) relocation benefit.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by svachalek »

jtmarmon wrote: post #96
sidlls wrote: post #89

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You forgot at least two pros: - Large salaries lead to higher savings rates - Opportunities are just not comparable almost anywhere less expensive: there are tens of thousands of jobs from hundreds of employers here in the Bay Area for technology that pays well, compared with hundreds or maybe a few thousand jobs for maybe a dozen or few tens of employers Also the "monoculture" dig applies to tech specifically: in te…

> - Large salaries lead to higher savings rates not in san fransisco https://www.mytrove.com/ca/san-francisco/cheddar/software-ap...

Commute a little: https://www.mytrove.com/ca/santa-clara-county/cheddar/softwa...
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