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A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by jpao79 »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #47
jpao79 wrote: post #42

He (and Sam Altman for all YC companies) should have the startup(s) all de-locate to the same town that's within driving distance of the Silicon Valley. I bet you could convince a lot of tech people to move to Santa Cruz or Monterey. You could also recruit from UC Santa Cruz and Cal Poly. Both downtown Santa Cruz and downtown Monterey feel pretty small town urban-y. Plus the Silicon Valley VC's can play golf at Pebbl…

That would fix things for a few years at best, and then it would likely end up even more expensive than the bay area.

Within Monterey/Santa Cruz proper that is true, but there is quite a bit of farmland in Salinas for single family homes. Water might be an issue.

Going north, you could head toward Rohnert Park/Sonoma. SamA and PG will just need to get in the car a bit more instead of taking Caltrain/BART.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by tehlike »

tmh79 wrote: post #37
tehlike wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason is probably super inflated salaries in bay area due to high cost of living. Lock in has probably less to do with this than pure money aspect.

the salaries are not due to cost of living, they are due to a competetive labor market.

Positive feedback loop.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by TallGuyShort »

tmh79 wrote: post #37
tehlike wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason is probably super inflated salaries in bay area due to high cost of living. Lock in has probably less to do with this than pure money aspect.

the salaries are not due to cost of living, they are due to a competetive labor market.

But compared to cost of a certain standard of living the salaries aren't that great.

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Post by enraged_camel »

meritt wrote: post #43
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #21

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There's a fire-hose of Californians directed at CO. In a decade or two they will have recreated the place they left.

The same can be said for WA, OR, and TX (Austin).

I live in Austin. It's really not that bad. Sure there are many people coming from CA (like I did 3 years ago) but Texas in general and also Austin in particular have distinct enough cultures that they haven't become just another CA. Just my personal opinion of course.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by biggc »

spitfire wrote: post #24
dawnerd wrote: post #16

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And if you're one of those people that really hate taxes, live in Vancouver, WA and buy everything in Portland.

Or just point roberts.

He meant Vancouver, WA. It's across the Columbia river from Portland

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by WalterSear »

EduardoBautista wrote: post #45
WalterSear wrote: post #27

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It's not the cost of living. It's just the rent.

And going out to restaurants and bars.

That's lifestyle, not cost of living.

There are plenty of good, cheap restaurants and bars in the city. I know: I frequent them.

I will give you that the number of outrageously priced restaurants and bars in SF has increased. People just don't seem to give a fuck about piling on debt. I think the insane cost of rent has had a psychological effect on incoming people. Or perhaps some other social phenomenon that brings them here is correlated with absolutely no sense of money.

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Post by lostcolony »

WalterSear wrote: post #25
alexbanks wrote: post #13

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> And the concentration of tech talent means that it's always easy to find a new job, or even to start your own company. I've never been there, but I see this echoed a lot. Is it actually true? I'm interested in both, but I'm wary of the exaggeration that may be "it's easy".

Yes, if you are a developer. Work is very easy to come by, though the vast majority is nowhere near as innovative or exciting as it once was here. I can't help thinking that this move by Zapier is a way to reduce turnover. I have several friends who smugly relocated away from the bay area, who now hate their jobs and can't leave them because there are no local opportunities. Working remotely may be different, but the…

That's silly. Find a job elsewhere willing to pay them to relocate again.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Post by WalterSear »

dabockster wrote: post #34
WalterSear wrote: post #15

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But I don't want to work for Amazon or Microsoft or at Google's satellite office.

There's a ton of companies here that will hire you if you have the right experience. If you're a new grad, however, expect to be out of work for a bit.

Which proves my underlying point that the opportunities in Seattle pale in comparison to SF.
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