Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

I mean, I'm talking about Twitter's politics, not their bans.

They get away with hosting hate speech because they're on the left. Meanwhile, another platform that's on the right is banned by Apple and Google with that excuse.

>>Again anyone can create their own website, nothing is limiting the exercise of their protected speech

Can they though? Domains Registries, Data-centers, ISP, all have terms of service, Storm Front learned that the hard way.

So I would not keep claiming "Again anyone can create their own website" because that is factually false

Anyone can get a website under the terms of conditions of the massive companies offering web hosting services, domain registrations, Internet Access, and all of the other private pieces need to run a website. This assumes you have the technical knowledge to do so, you are basically claiming Free Speech is only for server admins, dont know how to run your own web server, well make sure you conform to ever increasing strict "acceptable speech" codes if you do not want to be shut down

today society has a general aversion to or out right hate for Free Speech, and terms of service are becoming more and more restrictive.

Society its self is attacking the concept of Free Expression today far more effectively than any government ever could

It would seem this will be how Free Speech dies.... with Thunderous Applause from those too short sighted to see the forest because of a few racist trees....

First they came for the nazi's I did no protest for I am not a nazi... then they came for.....

I wonder which group will be next... and How long will it be before they come for me, that something I desire to speak out about will be "wrong think". I am Libertarian so I suspect it will not be long. Authoritarianism is the word of the day

I suspect you and I agree on more than we disagree.

> Bollocks. This is the case in quite a few countries but America is an exception to this rule.

I was speaking to you, the individual jacquesm, not your tribe. I was trying to be "that guy" who always says, "now let's not rush to judgment" all while the mob is grinding their axes and reaching for their pitchforks.

> When Hans Reiser was accused of the murder of his wife I was one of very few people on HN asking for people to hold back their judgment until the facts were in and until he was declared guilty.

I think I was too, (I hope I was too, it was a long time ago, I don't remember). Too many lazy folks rush to judge after they're fed whatever line they get in the media.

> So, if you want to take a stand here and advocate that this person, who used his car to attempt to murder dozens and who successfully murdered at least one person and who is on the record as being a supporter of a group of people which has made no bones about their willingness to do violence and of who we have some pretty good video of him doing that particular deed of which he stands accused them I'm fine with that, that's your right. In the meantime the accused has his name plastered all over the media and he's going to have a hard time even finding a jury that is not already roughly where I am: that if he's going to plead 'not guilty' he's going to have to pull an outside size rabbit out of his hat.

I can't rush to judge the guy even though there's video evidence showing vicious killing. He might have chosen the wrong day to go off his meds and was insane that day. Let the facts come out and pray justice is properly served.

Whether he's guilty or not, I don't want to live with him. I want him put away forever at the very least, irregardless of his motives or frame of mind when he went on the rampage.

I simply won't call the guy a murderer until he's judged that way, but other than that I hope we don't disagree much.

> And if you are really so concerned about the rights of the accused put in a cent or two towards protecting their privacy in the media until they've been found guilty, you know, like countries do that really care about protection of the individual against the tyranny of the mob.

America is so screwed up, I know. The bloodsuckin' media whores, corporations getting the finest government they can buy, the broken culture. It's enough to drive me to the bottle.

I can't do much to fix the brokenness, but I can at least speak and encourage others to the good. Based on what you've written in the past, I think your heart in the right place, and I don't think I can lecture you where good is concerned.

Well think about the pre internet days, how did people exercise their free speech? On a soapbox on the corner? Well maybe, but again you might need a city/county permit depending on the corner, that costs money. Maybe for people outside of yelling distance you need a megaphone, that costs money. To not get arrested for indecency you need clothes, that costs money, or for anyone to take you/your message serious you probably need nice clothes, those cost more money.

Want to print and distribute your protected speech, the printing press cost money.

I'd say a domain/hosting/web builder can be done cheaper than the printing press and certainly cheaper than getting a city permit. The actual knowledge involved? About 5-10 minutes of YouTube videos. Your right many of the services you might leverage have terms, the real world is not without similar terms.

Certainly today it is far cheaper and easier to set up a website for your message than anytime in the internets history. I think free speech like any other right dies through ignorance, lack of historical understanding and just lack of strength of character. To that end anyone can contractually limit their rights as you suggest but it's always been that way, it's not as though the internet was ever free of these terms in the beginning. Don't like the terms, then organize/boycott, take action, and I'm not pretending it's easy to take action against a company like Google, but think it wasn't hard to exercise free speech and fight for civil rights in the face of police, military, fire hoses, etc... It's not the US but think it was easy for Gandhi to be arrested and go on food strikes all those times, or Nelson Mandela to spend the greater part of his life in prison and later become the first Black South African President, or Ali to refuse the draft before the Vietnam war lost public support and giving up his championship (prime of his boxing career) fighting in the courts facing jail?

Pick and choose your causes as you wish, that's your right, but using other people private property whether it be real property or an online website that's where your rights end. But be willing to back up your ideals like the great heros above and host nazi parties at your house, let them burn crosses in your yard, but keep in mind your also advocating for everyone else including anti nazis to have the same rights to use your property in the same manner.

You're correct, I was mistaken. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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