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Re: Essential Phone, available now

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I could type faster (and without looking) on the old Nokia style keypads than I can on a touchscreen.

So could I. No looking at the keyboard and almost never making a typo. I had to backspace and correct 3 typos writing this on my iPhone with autocorrect fixing several more.

Maybe this will change with tactile screens. Touch screen keyboards are the result of a severe underestimation of the importance of the human element in hardware design.

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I think this company gets a lot of things right. Frankly, some of their marketing really speaks to me, like this bit from the home page[0]. Your phone is your personal property. It’s a public expression of who you are and what you stand for. Just because we played a part in making it doesn’t mean you should be forced to advertise that fact to everyone in your life. Now you know why we don't have any logos on the phon…

The only problem I see with the Essential Phone is that you'll only receive 2 years of OS updates. For a $700 phone, that's a bit insulting.

> Essential Phone will get guaranteed Android OS updates for 2 years and will get monthly security updates for 3 years, so your phone will always be secure and have the latest features.

Yeah, that doesn't seem that great at all. iPhones are 3-5 years. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/53mizf/iph...

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Huh, what are those apps then? Also, what accessories? There's just a charger right? Supposedly Lineage runs well on them btw.

That's another annoying thing. OnePlus uses a specific type of charger, the Dash(tm) charger, so you can't just buy any random USB charging unit, or else it will take all day to charge. And the chargers are expensive. The other problem is that the screen is not flat, so you need to buy a curved screen protector. For the OnePlus 3, they've been sold out for months, and have no plans to restock them. Furthermore, there…

> The other problem is that the screen is not flat, so you need to buy a curved screen protector.

Huh? The phone ships with the screen protector already applied.

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> considering they'd have to start from scratch with channels like carrier partnerships, retail presence, and advertising OnePlus has none of these and seems very successful.

Meh, I bought my first OnePlus phone a few months ago and while the phone itself is great, I've been thoroughly unimpressed with their support and unavailability of most accessories, both from OnePlus and 3rd parties. It's a huge turn off and I won't buy another one.

I bought a OnePlus 3 this year to replace my Nexus 5 after catastrophic hardware failure. :(

The phone is great in every way except ergonomics. It's so fat that holding it hurts my hand. Apparently they had a smaller model for the generation before the 3, but the OnePlus 5 is absurdly fat only; I'm not going to be able to keep buying their phones.

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Since no one else has, I'll take the piss out of this "hollier than thou" bullshit. > Devices are your personal property. We won’t force you to have anything you don’t want. Devices are your personal property. The SoC is still a proprietary trade secret, the baseband is still spying on you for the NSA, the GPU is still a closed blob piece of shit. No mainline driver support, bootloader is closed source, firmware is c…

Yes, it isn't as innovative as the marketing dept would have you believe.

The Xiaomi Mi Mix from 2016 contained more innovative features.

The Essential phone is just another large, high end Android very similar to the Samsung S7/S8 or Xiaomi Mi6 or new LG - Very nice, but not a major innovation.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Give me software updates for 7+ years, then we'll talk about buying your $700 phone. Lasting hardware means nothing without lasting software. In the meanwhile, I'll keep buying $120 phones (Moto G4 with Amazon Ads FTW) and keeping them for ~2 years until they break or software updates stop. Even though as a Catholic (Laudato Si, Rerum Novarum) it kills me to waste all those materials every couple of years and be part…

> Lasting hardware means nothing without lasting software. The Nexus 6P is a perfect example of this: https://m.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/google_eol_for_nexus_... I've had mine a year and a half, and it doesn't even feel close to struggling with things. Performance is great. Yet, it's going to be artificially deprived of the latest Android releases starting one month from now, and won't even receive security updat…

Note that it's a "guaranteed" date. Considering Android O works with Nexus 6P devices, I don't see them arbitrarily pulling the rug out from under us quite yet. I also don't imagine that any O point release will stop support either, so we'll likely see the 6P updated through the life of O.

That being said, three years seems like a ridiculously short "guaranteed support" lifetime... especially considering the iPhone 5 (released nearly 5 years ago) is losing support this year.

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