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Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Care to point one out in particular?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15042346

I thought you were saying that the people here are racists, now I understand you are talking about the misinformed. My bad.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

#84

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Here's where I addressed those concerns > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15042314

These snotty replies are so insufferable. No, you did not address his reply in your original comment.

Hey man,

I'm not trying to be snotty. I'm trying to explain what the "free speech" side of the argument is.

I'm not saying his is invalid, or that he didn't bring up point, but I'm stating why there is concern from those concerned with free speech and "de-platforming."

I don't think asking for a debate is "snotty" or "insufferable", but if I am, please let me know where I'm wrong :)

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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> Is it because good people prefer censorship? No, it's because the dominant ideology cannot survive debate. There's a reason why ethnic nationalism and race realism have exploded in popularity in the past five years, and it's not because the ringleaders are a bunch of trained hypnotists.

race realism? is that new word you made up for nazis?

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Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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To add to that argument, GAB, StormFront, and other websites and services like it have been around a LONG time. Since the internet began. Yet we are only now seeing a reaction from those platforms that host such content. Why? What made Gab and Stormfront ok two weeks ago, but not ok now? That's the hypocrisy that needs greater focus.

Well, the national news wasn't filled with pictures of people marching in the open streets with nazi flags 10 years ago, for starters.

It was though. The neo Nazi movement was a lot bigger in the 90s than it is now.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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I don't think that's the argument free speech advocates are making. The argument is that facebook/twitter as well as some of these other platforms cloudflare/app stores, etc are a form of speech & they have a somewhat debateable stronghold on facilitating speech. So, when they deny speech to a specific group of people, they're not just denying service, but denying speech. The argument is debateable, but that is why p…

To add to that argument, GAB, StormFront, and other websites and services like it have been around a LONG time. Since the internet began. Yet we are only now seeing a reaction from those platforms that host such content. Why? What made Gab and Stormfront ok two weeks ago, but not ok now? That's the hypocrisy that needs greater focus.

With a name like "Overton Window" I suspect you are entirely aware why.

To spell it out: the Overton window has moved to a point where people matching in the streets with Nazi flags yelling about killing Jews is not beyond the pale.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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race realism? is that new word you made up for nazis?

> hurrr nazis ps my worldview requires me to remain this uninformed Hey did you hear that 13 people died to a jihadi truck in Barcelona today? How many Muslim websites did Google knock offline in response? Or Cloudflare? How many Muslim accounts did Facebook and Twitter shut down? I'm sure they're all scurrying to do just that, now that The Gloves Are Off in The War on Hate. Let's just wait and see.

Islamic terrorists (e.g. ISIS), like white supremacist terrorists, have a hard time finding web hosting for the same reasons.

Nobody is being denied from the play store because they are white, nor because they are muslims. That would be illegal.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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You act as if Google didn't just pay a multibillion dollar fine for violating a law based on censorship of certain shopping comparison websites. SV is not beyond the power of governments, governments are just slow to catch up. For good reason.

By supplanting the government I really only meant The United States government. Google, it seems, is still willing to payout to foreign governments. Since they might actually Something that our government does often too, so it seems to sort of come with the territory of being one of the most powerful organizations in The US. I'd be astonished if our government had the spine to levy such a fine against Google or start…

A cursory Google search shows they paid a fine to the US government that is only 1/5 the EU fine, and that was in 2011, when its stock was 1/5 what it is today.

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Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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race realism? is that new word you made up for nazis?

> hurrr nazis ps my worldview requires me to remain this uninformed Hey did you hear that 13 people died to a jihadi truck in Barcelona today? How many Muslim websites did Google knock offline in response? Or Cloudflare? How many Muslim accounts did Facebook and Twitter shut down? I'm sure they're all scurrying to do just that, now that The Gloves Are Off in The War on Hate. Let's just wait and see.

ISIS accounts and webpages are aggressively shutdown by Google, Facebook and Twitter.

Why would they shutdown Muslim websites and accounts though? Perhaps you are implying they are all terrorists or something?

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