next dilemma for a startup - figuring out which bit of the splinternet you are going to target - the chinese, the confederate, the islamic or the general part.
Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
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#32> Gab is aimed at people interested in “Western values, individual liberty, and the free exchange of ideas” looking to avoid the “special interests pushing a very specific agenda” in tech. If that dog whistle isn’t loud enough...
Not sure that's a dog whistle.
With even the article admiting they can't find a valid reason for it to have been kicked from the Play Store, it's almost a self fulfilling prophecy.
Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Much of it depends how public it is. For instance something like whisper needs to remove nudity/hate speech else they'll be kicked off iOS/playstore. But, you can still send it directly without issue.
Let's take Torba out of the equation and just say innocent Dev A wants to create a truly free speech platform, where anything goes and only illegal things get removed. Like voat, per se. We all see how that turned out. I'm kind of curious why we can't have an uncensored platform that represents both sides. Is it because good people prefer censorship?
It's because:
a) there's a lot more demand for alternatives among groups that have been kicked off analogous platforms. You almost have to hide them to avoid the stain. And of course, when a Buzzfeed editor asks why you haven't kicked off $UNPOPULAR_GROUP_X, they're not going to convey your actual principled response; they're going to convey that you're a closet $BAD_THING.
b) people remember offense and want to stay very far away from things that have offended them. Most judgments, by necessity, are made subconsciously. The association between "Reddit Name and Mascot" and "Bad Thing I Saw on the Front Page" is going to be made automatically and take many times more effort to undo.
"Don't shoot the messenger" is a phrase because our inclination is to lash out at the perceived vessel. It requires additional abstraction to take the immediate/physical association out of the mental blame loop.
This is why Facebook starts totally empty. It's why Twitter starts totally empty and then suggests the most banal/run-of-the-mill initial follows. It's why reddit can't shake the edgy atheist college sophomore as it's primary demographic (that demographic upvotes things that appeal to their niche only to the front page, scaring away everyone else).
People don't want a neutral point of view, they don't want both sides. They want their views reinforced and their egos stroked. Nothing else will suffice. Consumers are very unforgiving.
The fact that we can now retreat into an infinite echo chamber via the internet has had highly deleterious effects on civility.
Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
#34Meanwhile twitter is being used to threaten assassinations - https://twitter.com/search?q=assassinate%20trump&src=tyah I get there's ugly stuff on the internet, but when did all the platforms decide to start being the moral center of determining what's acceptable speech. Hate speech is still protected speech (in the US anyways)[1] no matter how horrible it is. > A law that can be directed against speech found offensi…
> when did all the platforms decide to start being the moral center of determining what's acceptable speech
they always have, they all have content policies. for example, very few of them allow porn.
Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
#35Meanwhile twitter is being used to threaten assassinations - https://twitter.com/search?q=assassinate%20trump&src=tyah I get there's ugly stuff on the internet, but when did all the platforms decide to start being the moral center of determining what's acceptable speech. Hate speech is still protected speech (in the US anyways)[1] no matter how horrible it is. > A law that can be directed against speech found offensi…
They aren't the moral center. They're firmly on the left and banning their political opponents. Hate speech exists on all platforms and comes from both sides; it's only an excuse here.
the left is mote moral right now. the right has gone off the rails.
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#36I find this odd. One person died at Charlottesville, potentially from an accident. Meanwhile there's been at least one intentional shooting with a higher death toll related to BLM, but there was no widespread "we need to shut this down" backlash there. But all of a sudden some random site writing mostly nonsense is some huge threat that we're gonna put aside neutrality and free speech for?
"potentially from an accident"
We clearly didn't watch the same video.
Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
#37I find this odd. One person died at Charlottesville, potentially from an accident. Meanwhile there's been at least one intentional shooting with a higher death toll related to BLM, but there was no widespread "we need to shut this down" backlash there. But all of a sudden some random site writing mostly nonsense is some huge threat that we're gonna put aside neutrality and free speech for?
Regardless of your personal thoughts on BLM, the violence you're referring to is incidental; people involved in the violence may have ties to BLM but the did not commit the violence on behalf of BLM (indeed, BLM denounces all violence).
On the other hand, the neo-nazi terrorists in this country are killing people explicitly to serve their ideology. Hate leads to action, and the last time we let these guys preach hate unchecked it led to a world war and millions of innocent people murdered. We will not let them do this again.
Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
#38Meanwhile twitter is being used to threaten assassinations - https://twitter.com/search?q=assassinate%20trump&src=tyah I get there's ugly stuff on the internet, but when did all the platforms decide to start being the moral center of determining what's acceptable speech. Hate speech is still protected speech (in the US anyways)[1] no matter how horrible it is. > A law that can be directed against speech found offensi…
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#39I find this odd. One person died at Charlottesville, potentially from an accident. Meanwhile there's been at least one intentional shooting with a higher death toll related to BLM, but there was no widespread "we need to shut this down" backlash there. But all of a sudden some random site writing mostly nonsense is some huge threat that we're gonna put aside neutrality and free speech for?
> potentially from an accident
I'm not sure you are serious, but do you genuinely believe that this was potentially from an accident? The kind of accident where you get into your car, aim at a crowd and boot the accelerator?
Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech
#40> Is it because good people prefer censorship? No, it's because the dominant ideology cannot survive debate. There's a reason why ethnic nationalism and race realism have exploded in popularity in the past five years, and it's not because the ringleaders are a bunch of trained hypnotists.
race realism? is that new word you made up for nazis?