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Re: Reddit needs help

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post #84

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They don't actually have merchandise that generates a profit. All of their merchandise is done through breadpig, where 100% of the profits go to a charity.

Although that is admirable, shouldn't they get themselves on solid financial footing before donating?

Sorry for the confusion here, but reddit's merch is produced by and for reddit's profit -- just sold via the same xkcd store as breadpig. I did run both (before leaving reddit) and only the profits of breadpig merch is donated.

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #137

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I've had experience successfully monetizing all sorts of low-quality traffic, and I can tell you that it's possible to get decent CPM from any type of users, even users like redditors who don't click on ads as much. You should be able to easily pull at least $2 CPM from general/frontpage reddit traffic, and probably closer to $10 CPM from specific subreddits. At 280M pageviews, that's over $500K a month in revenue yo…

For another perspective from someone with experience: I'd say $500k is about 2-3x times higher than what's reasonable to expect, without a really good direct sales.

You don't think throwing up a 300x250 banner on the front page from somewhere like RightMedia could get a premium site like reddit $2 CPM? I bet even low traffic quality sites like icanhazcheesburger or cracked are getting more than $2 CPM.

By the way, reddit can really learn from Demand Media sites like Cracked, who are very very good at monetizing the same type of low quality social media traffic.

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #55

I have to say, this looks bad for the whole "users first, revenue later" mantra. Now, admittedly, the founders got paid on the flip. But there are users, and now it's later, so... where is the revenue? I heard this moment described as the "where is the land" moment. The crew has been sailing the ocean for a long time and they're running on slim hope. They grumble, then complain, and finally they confront the captain…

This looks like a straight up request for charity. As they say in their blog post, they will not be able to offer any new features, at the current time, in exchange for you subscribing. I would feel uncomfortable with that business model, if I was them. Admittedly, National Public Radio survives that way, but then, NPR is registered as a non-profit, and donations are tax deductible.

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #137

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I've had experience successfully monetizing all sorts of low-quality traffic, and I can tell you that it's possible to get decent CPM from any type of users, even users like redditors who don't click on ads as much. You should be able to easily pull at least $2 CPM from general/frontpage reddit traffic, and probably closer to $10 CPM from specific subreddits. At 280M pageviews, that's over $500K a month in revenue yo…

It's because they don't know shit about advertising. Take a look at their "sponsored link" system. It's impossible for an advertiser to predict what impressions or click-throughs they will get for their ad spend.

You appear to be claiming to know more than 'shit'. A such, your suggestions are undoubtedly welcome.

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #82
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They have a userbase which is ridiculously hard to monetize (IMHO). I'd bet the % of adblock users on Reddit is way higher than the average. The Reddit crowd aren't your average mainstream user. It's a particular crowd (liberal anti-capitalism pro-cannabis etc etc) [Again, just my opinion] Also they really have very few adverts at all on the site, and those that are there, are tucked away not very noticable. Say you…

I'd bet the % of adblock users on Reddit is way higher than the average. So, actually, this could be an interesting experiment - the ad blockers slogan is often "I prefer to subscribe". I hope it works out that way for them!

I think the ad blocker slogan is unofficially 'I'm an idiot who thinks that web sites and content appears magically without the creators requiring or deserving ad revenue for their work'

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #50

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To be blunt (we are talking Reddit..) Conde Nast were chumps when they allowed Chris Anderson, high on his own supply, convince them to buy Reddit for its supposed "Long Tail News" value. Now they're chumps for not putting a grown up in charge of converting 280 million page views/month and a dedicated community to enough money to support 4 engineers and a bunch of servers. The comparison to Gruber etc is misleading,…

> Conde Nast were chumps when they allowed Chris Anderson, high on his own supply, convince them to buy Reddit for its supposed "Long Tail News" value. That's not how it happened. > Now they're chumps for not putting a grown up in charge I like to think of myself as a grown up. > converting 280 million page views/month and a dedicated community to enough money to support 4 engineers and a bunch of servers. This is th…

Wired Digital/Conde Nast doesn't have the option to buy ads on a 'run of network' kinda basis? That sounds like utter madness.

Re: Reddit needs help

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It's because they don't know shit about advertising. Take a look at their "sponsored link" system. It's impossible for an advertiser to predict what impressions or click-throughs they will get for their ad spend.

You appear to be claiming to know more than 'shit'. A such, your suggestions are undoubtedly welcome.

Sorry for the tone, but I explained this to them in one of their Reddit announcement posts about their sponsored links, and their response was such that they had no concept of how advertising worked and acted like I was the one that was wrong. Now a few months later, they're begging their users for donations.

il lays out exactly what they need to do, so there isn't much else to suggest. Simply set up some ad placements on the site and get set up as a publisher with the ad network of their choice. The network does all the sales. (Edit: Later on, they can get into do their own direct sales, sponsorships, etc.) They actually were signed up as a publisher for an ad network for a while, I think, because I remember some ad taking over the screen and everyone freaking out. Maybe that scared them away from the idea because they couldn't control the ad types, I don't know.

I don't know what their mobile numbers are, but they need to get set up as a publisher with a mobile ad network too, such as Ad Mob, Millennial or Quattro.

And since they don't know how anything works, they need to get a few thousand dollars and hire a consultant to explain it all to them. I know they are sensitive about pissing off users, but I suspect that their conversations with Conde Nast and any ad network have ended up in frustrated conversations that go nowhere because they don't understand each other. They need a marketing consultant that understands both worlds to bridge the communication gap. Yes, I'm available.

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #166

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Surely the traffic/load isn't that variable? Seems like even a VPS provider (linode/slicehost/etc) would offer far more bang for the buck. The pricing for bandwidth alone on EC2 is simply insane.

Actually, it isn't so much the traffic. It's when something like Cassandra suddenly stops working correctly and we need to take emergency action to keep the site up by, for example, doubling our memcached pool temporarily. None of the VPS's can give us that many nodes that quickly. Also, bandwidth is by far our lowest cost. It is less than 5% of our total bill.

>> "Also, bandwidth is by far our lowest cost. It is less than 5% of our total bill."

I can't see why Reddit should be a particularly high CPU usage website. So perhaps time to optimize and swap out some things...

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #170

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If you don't mind my answering this... Above here, I said that I would pay you $5 a month, and I would...but the only reason for that is that you I've talked to you on here (hacker news) before. To me the people runnign reddit are real . To me, you're a friend and I'm throwing $5 into the can that is duct-taped to your kegerator because you let me drink it for free... ...but for most people? What does reddit offer me…

> /r/pics? /r/askreddit? /r/iama? What? /r/iama is one of the best things that happened to reddit. Sure, most of the submissions are shit, but some are golden. > What does reddit offer me that I can't get elsewhere The community. Most of the value is in the comments. --- About usenet, you could try http://www.astraweb.com/ I bought the once-off 180gb plan. Text isn't even counted. It's going to last me years.

The community, and their comments, has gone downhill, that's his point.

Re: Reddit needs help

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post #61
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They have a userbase which is ridiculously hard to monetize (IMHO). I'd bet the % of adblock users on Reddit is way higher than the average. The Reddit crowd aren't your average mainstream user. It's a particular crowd (liberal anti-capitalism pro-cannabis etc etc) [Again, just my opinion] Also they really have very few adverts at all on the site, and those that are there, are tucked away not very noticable. Say you…

I am not so sure about that - Reddit is one of the only sites that I turned adblock of on - their ads were too interesting and too funny to hide, which is an amazing accomplishment. And Reddit never did try very hard to moneytize their site, obvious things like self-serve ads that can be specialized on a subreddit (which means that you can target /r/haskell with job ads - imagine how many adds you can get for the pri…

Turning adblock off doesn't necessarily mean anything. The fact you install adblock at all, means you're not a good demographic in terms of advertising - even if you turn adblock off.
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