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Why I am moving to Cleveland

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Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#41

Does anyone have suggestions for underrated (or upcoming) cities with a lot to offer and moderate real estate?

Complete speculation: outskirts of college towns, some of the inland mountain towns in northern California like Quincy. The southern ones (Big Bear, Idyllwild etc.) are already swarmed. Even with these towns, you'd probably have to find something in a less desirable area and wait a decade or two for it to be gentrified. Many hipster or super expensive places were once the "bad area" of a big city: Venice Beach, warehouse district of Los Angeles, Pioneer Square in Seattle. Full of bums, needles on the ground. Super cheap.

The older people I met who lucked out with massive appreciation on their properties just bought houses/condos in cheaper areas with decent locations (commuting distance to the city center), then lucked out when gentrification passed over. At the time they were very bland areas.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM Jokes aside, it's odd that OP is lumping Cleveland in with other 'mid-west' cities. They all have their own very different characters. Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh...all very different. Also most of the top 30-40 American cities have similar minimum amenities. A theatre, downtown with restaurants, light rail. I don't think that should surp…

Even knowing the geographical size of my country, I always mentally lump everything from Cleveland through St. Louis and up to Green Bay as a 3 hour drive from each other. I'm from Texas... this is how I picture things sometimes:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/63/a9/e0/63a9e09cbfdf63f869d2...

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#43

Does anyone have suggestions for underrated (or upcoming) cities with a lot to offer and moderate real estate?

Kansas City is worth a look

I second this, if you can tolerate the Midwest winters. Kansas City has plenty of industry (and great BBQ!) and is fairly clean. One downside is the lack of a light rail system.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM Jokes aside, it's odd that OP is lumping Cleveland in with other 'mid-west' cities. They all have their own very different characters. Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh...all very different. Also most of the top 30-40 American cities have similar minimum amenities. A theatre, downtown with restaurants, light rail. I don't think that should surp…

Jokes aside, it's odd that OP is lumping Cleveland in with other 'mid-west' cities.

As an outsider (I'm from NC) I have always thought of Cleveland as a "rust belt" city first and foremost. I tend to assume Cleveland has more in common with, say, Pittsburgh, Charleston WV, Detroit, etc., than what I think of as a more stereotypical "mid-west" city like Kansas City, St. Louis, or even Chicago.

But of those, Chicago is the only one I've spent any significant time in, so I may be way off. Anybody from one of those areas care to comment? Is the "rust belt" identify meme a strong factor to locals? More or less so than being considered "mid western"?

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#45
post #20

Highly relevant: http://i.imgur.com/CfZnUDG.png

"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

You mean, someone would just go out, and tell lies, on the internet?

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#46
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked downtown for a few years and I really don't think your comments are entirely accurate. I don't want to turn this into a back and forth but by no means would I say that it is downtown is dirty (there are some less fortunate spots just outside of the city). I ride the light rail RTA to work every day from ~20 miles out and consistently get to work at about the time. I don't ride the buses so perhaps that is…

I rode the light rail from east side to downtown every day for two years. It's dirty. West side to downtown may be another story.

I live in UC. I leave from the Little Italy stop. The train is extremely clean. Someone who has also lived in NYC. The trains are magnitudes cleaner in Cle than NYC.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#47

wow! didn't expect to see this - same reaction I and my gf had moving to Cleveland (here since July!). Surprisingly fun and plenty to do, not to mention the abundance of restaurants. Coming from a bigger city I didn't know what to expect, but this has been a great summer so far!

Winter is coming!

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#48

Much of Cleveland is a dump. Close to 100 murders a year is a lot for a city of 400k. Lots of crime, high car insurance, it's just dreary looking and feeling like Milwaukee or Detroit. The white areas of Cleveland are pretty racist - it's a very segregated city, like most other large cities in the rust belt.

The murders mostly occur in places like East Cleveland or near Kinsman. These aren't places that people just visit. Why is Cleveland racist?

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#49

It will be interesting to see if remote work rejuvenates other parts of the country. You could buy a Victorian mansion in many parts of the country for less than a condo costs in the expensive cities.

Yes. I think we'll see some rejuvenation, but it also depends on other factors too.

   * other job opptys (either remote or local, if the current job doesn't work out)
   * quality of life (schools, recreation, weather, etc)

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM Jokes aside, it's odd that OP is lumping Cleveland in with other 'mid-west' cities. They all have their own very different characters. Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh...all very different. Also most of the top 30-40 American cities have similar minimum amenities. A theatre, downtown with restaurants, light rail. I don't think that should surp…

Jokes aside, it's odd that OP is lumping Cleveland in with other 'mid-west' cities. As an outsider (I'm from NC) I have always thought of Cleveland as a "rust belt" city first and foremost. I tend to assume Cleveland has more in common with, say, Pittsburgh, Charleston WV, Detroit, etc., than what I think of as a more stereotypical "mid-west" city like Kansas City, St. Louis, or even Chicago. But of those, Chicago is…

Been to Chicago a few times and it's much different than Cleveland(Lived there for 4 years). Cleveland is more similar to Pittsburgh than Chicago. People in Cleveland associate with both the rust belt identity and the Midwest identity.
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