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Why I am moving to Cleveland

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Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#31

I currently live in Cleveland. It's alright, but the author is going to be in for quite a shock regarding >clean, vibrant downtown area, ... good transit (including lightrail), a diverse economy The city is extremely dirty and constantly has a very bad smell, and the RTA (public transit) is a disaster. The direct downtown area is essentially just a massive parking lot. The economy also consists entirely of the Clevel…

I disagree about RTA comment. I take the 55 almost everyday and it is super clean. The city used to be dirty, but has been rejuvenated from public square to the east bank. It's really bike friendly as far as transportation goes as well.

Id also have to disagree on the RTA bit. They're pretty well run here in Dayton.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#32

Everytime I see a "Why I am moving to ____ " or "Why I am leaving ____", I cringe. 9 out of 10 times, it's OP's specific situation that makes sense, but the articles paint a very generalized rosy picture of the destination or a very generalized terrible picture of the current city (ex: "SF Bay Area has gotten so expensive, commute is horrible, everything sucks.... so I'm moving to Austin, tech community is so great..…

Agree, often the remarks are heavily opinionated & biased in favor of their own world view, change perspective a little & the whole set up might look awkward.

I've rarely seen a few articles(actually they exist) which talks in terms of data, verifiable facts, empirical evidence, and a forecast based on these.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#33
Sounds like a pretty solid case of "grass is greener on the other side". The bullet points in the article can be applied to every city, and Cleveland has the same problems that residents of these cities generally complain about.

Plus LeBron is leaving next year.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#34

Everytime I see a "Why I am moving to ____ " or "Why I am leaving ____", I cringe. 9 out of 10 times, it's OP's specific situation that makes sense, but the articles paint a very generalized rosy picture of the destination or a very generalized terrible picture of the current city (ex: "SF Bay Area has gotten so expensive, commute is horrible, everything sucks.... so I'm moving to Austin, tech community is so great..…

Agree, often the remarks are heavily opinionated & biased in favor of their own world view, change perspective a little & the whole set up might look awkward. I've rarely seen a few articles(actually they exist) which talks in terms of data, verifiable facts, empirical evidence, and a forecast based on these.

I think it's perfectly fine to express your opinion in such an article. Everyone's situation and perception are different. You may gain more by empathizing with their outlook than by poring over data about what the optimal living arrangement is.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#36

I currently live in Cleveland. It's alright, but the author is going to be in for quite a shock regarding >clean, vibrant downtown area, ... good transit (including lightrail), a diverse economy The city is extremely dirty and constantly has a very bad smell, and the RTA (public transit) is a disaster. The direct downtown area is essentially just a massive parking lot. The economy also consists entirely of the Clevel…

The last sentence of this post perfectly describes Austin, Texas.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#37
Much of Cleveland is a dump. Close to 100 murders a year is a lot for a city of 400k. Lots of crime, high car insurance, it's just dreary looking and feeling like Milwaukee or Detroit. The white areas of Cleveland are pretty racist - it's a very segregated city, like most other large cities in the rust belt.

Re: Why I am moving to Cleveland

#40
As someone who just spent the last 4 years in Cleveland (for school), I want to comment on professional environment of the city for those interested in tech careers. The number of companies is pretty low, and the professional environment is far more conservative/traditional than what you'd see in the big tech hubs. Also if you look at BLS data, there is a below average number of tech jobs when compared to other economic regions.

The kinds of industries that dominate in NE Ohio are either advanced chemical manufacturing and medicine through the Cleveland Clinic.

Other comments both positive and negative:

The RTA is pretty bad, but it isn't bad at all by American public transportation standards.

The city has amazing opportunities within the arts for a city of it's size, the museums are really great and free. Additionally, the Cleveland orchestra is relatively cheap to attend and they are one of the best orchestras in the world. Lastly, big acts and shows do come to playhouse square.

Cleveland has some really great public events, Bright Winter and Ingenuity Fest are absolutely amazing. It has an amazing food scene that is constantly expanding, where waiters at top restaurants can also afford a home in the city.

Lastly, for a city that is constantly ranked as one of most out of shape cities in the country, people are so incredibly passionate about this place. In bigger, more global cities, there is less of a desire among the general population to improve the community at large. In Cleveland, everyone is on the same team.

Overall, if you are a person who likes small cities (I personally am not), Cleveland is a pretty great choice overall, especially if cost of homeownership is an important factor in the city you choose to live in.

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