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72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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Re: 72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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Are ISPs really going to stop abiding by Net Neutrality rules? Wouldn't that offer a big competitive opportunity for an ISP that supports Net Neutrality?

My ISP choices are Comcast, tethering to my cell phone's 4G plan, or (probably, haven't looked into it) satellite internet.

I can't simply move to a different ISP unless I want to give up on most things I do on the internet or move to a new apartment building.

Re: 72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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Can someone point to the best ELI5 article, or tell me the best metaphor? I think I don't do a great job trying to explain net neutrality to family members.

Try this: http://imgur.com/qtENxAG

Except ISPs are planning to charge providers, not the users, so if NN falls and people don't see their bills increase as that suggests, good luck getting them to listen to you again.

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Are ISPs really going to stop abiding by Net Neutrality rules? Wouldn't that offer a big competitive opportunity for an ISP that supports Net Neutrality?

But it would make too much sense to criticize the artificial monopolies created by the state instead of complaining about ISPs!

Where I live, ISPs tend to sign contracts with whoever owns apartment buildings to be the sole provider.

Re: 72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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It would probably help if more advocates agreed on what they mean by net neutrality. Having listened to advocates on various news networks, I'm pretty confused what they actually mean.

I would also like to see an actual bill with an actual legal definition. Given how regulations work, I would hope the authors of said bill put the actual regulations in it. I still want to see one of these advocacy groups put out a proposed bill.

Re: 72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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Senator Isakson gave a townhall Monday. One of the questions was a rambling explainer that could be best summarized is "Net neutrality is about not censoring the internet so do you support it?" to which of course responded "I do not support censorship so we have to deregulate to ensure it."

The guy practiacally showed Isakson the door.

Re: 72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the high-demand "premium" channel is the best - simply because there is no limited supply. I used the bridge metaphor for a while, but unlike bridges there is no maintenance required from increased usage or traffic jam generated from high traffic to netflix or google.

Of course there is. Bandwidth isn't infinite, there's certainly congestion and maintenance required to upkeep and upgrade routers and cables.

yes but that is from general use, not tied to specific websites.

If total traffic increases those costs go up, not if a higher percentage of users access specific sites.

That would be like charging trucks more to cross a certain bridge because there are more cars on the freeway two towns over.

Re: 72% of Consumers Don't Know What Net Neutrality Is

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know how you have to pay extra to your ISP to watch Netflix or Youtube? You don't because of Net Neutrality. If they are old enough you can use this metaphor: Anti-Net Neutrality is for turning the Information Superhighway into toll roads. If they need further explanation, go with the highway analogy. Imagine if all of the roads in the country were privately owned, but still free to use. You pay your tax and t…

Do you know how you have to pay extra to your ISP to watch Netflix or Youtube? You don't because of Net Neutrality. That's a good scare tactic, but isn't very informative (or necessarily true). Net Neutrality only came into effect on June 12, 2015. I don't think people will recall paying extra to watch Netflix or YouTube before that date (because they weren't). And paying extra probably won't be the effect if net neu…

Netflix did pay a ransom to Verizon and Comcast back in 2015.

You didn't see it directly, but that money came out of the same pot that would have paid for more content on Netflix.

http://time.com/80192/netflix-verizon-paid-peering-agreement...

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