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A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by svachalek »

ethanhunt_ wrote: post #122
nxsynonym wrote: post #2

While the rising cost of housing is an easy target, why not put the pressure on the companies that are driving the influx of workers and out of control cost of living? If tech companies are drawing people into cities and forcing out those who keep the city itself operating, why not have them subsidize and improve public transportation? Lower income housing? Encourage more remote work or move their headquarters out of…

Why should taxpayers subsidize unsustainable prices for the restaurants/shops/services? If it's just left alone, the market will react to this. If a 1BR apt costs $2500/mo, then the price of a sandwich might go to $25 to be able to pay that sandwich-makers $75k/yr wage. And if SFers don't like paying $25 for a sandwich then they can vote for more density.

Nah, there are much more viable market solutions. There will be 4 sandwich makers sharing that apartment, or they will commute for hours, or the sandwiches will be made somewhere else and shipped in, or the sandwich shop will make you build your own sandwich, or it will understaff and you'll have to wait 30 minutes for your sandwich...

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by cabaalis »

jmckib wrote: post #112
JohnDotAwesome wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In San Fransisco, a coding bootcamp grad can get 140K out the door I really hope that's not true

It is, though I'd say the average is closer to 100-120k. Not sure why that's a bad thing though.

Not really a bad thing, just maybe disappointing. I've been a professional coder for 10 years, and now am at an "executive"-level at a small startup, and I make the high end of that. In my area, that is a very strong upper-middle-class salary, though 180 would be better.

It's sad at first to see that someone who is simply in a different area geographically is afforded so much for so little effort. However when you factor in the cost of living there, it feels (slightly) better. I say slightly, because every time I've visited SF the actual costs of things has not been significantly different. I haven't had to pay rent or mortgage there, though.

Edit: And I don't live somewhere off in the woods, either. The county I live in is in the top 10 wealthiest counties in the country. There is something wrong in SF that is not just cost of living.

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by stillhere »

nxsynonym wrote: post #2

While the rising cost of housing is an easy target, why not put the pressure on the companies that are driving the influx of workers and out of control cost of living? If tech companies are drawing people into cities and forcing out those who keep the city itself operating, why not have them subsidize and improve public transportation? Lower income housing? Encourage more remote work or move their headquarters out of…

This all falls squarely on the shoulders on landlords and their greed. Once they take a look at the applicant's tech salaries, the prices go up.

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by s0rce »

komali2 wrote: post #106
greyfox wrote: post #58

this woman needs a car drive it as far into the city as possible then park it and use transit

And sit in traffic for an hour instead of relax on a train for 2? Ew. What this lady needs is a sweet GSXR-1000 to split all the way to paradise. I don't know why more people don't take advantage of the fact that lane splitting is legal here, it's a fantastic way to cut commute time in half. Plus you get free or super cheap parking pretty much wherever you want.

Its more dangerous, lots of people don't even want to bicycle because of the perceived and possibly actual real danger.

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by hatsunearu »

komali2 wrote: post #106
greyfox wrote: post #58

this woman needs a car drive it as far into the city as possible then park it and use transit

And sit in traffic for an hour instead of relax on a train for 2? Ew. What this lady needs is a sweet GSXR-1000 to split all the way to paradise. I don't know why more people don't take advantage of the fact that lane splitting is legal here, it's a fantastic way to cut commute time in half. Plus you get free or super cheap parking pretty much wherever you want.

You're kidding right?

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by jermaustin1 »

lisper wrote: post #81
ucaetano wrote: post #52

San Francisco has more than twice the area of Manhattan, with half the population. The San Francisco Bay Area CSA has about the same population as Switzerland, with 2/3 of the area of Switzerland. Both have similar GDPs. If someone wanted to live in Germany, and commute to work in Zurich, with Swiss salaries and German cost-of-living, their commute would be about 1h15min. The housing and infrastructure problems in th…

> The housing and infrastructure problems in the SFBA are purely political, and self-inflicted. That's true, but the implication that these decisions are inarguably stupid ("self-inflicted") is unfair. It's a conscious and IMHO defensible choice by the people who already live here: we would prefer to deal with the problems caused by insufficient housing than by the problems caused by overly dense population.

>It's a conscious and IMHO defensible choice by the people who already live here...

This statement smells really, really bad.

As the article stated, she had to leave the SFBA because she was evicted and the housing prices had gone up too much. She lived there, and didn't chose that. As with all gentrification, the population that lived there didn't chose for affluent (typically white) people to move in and raise their rents forcing them further and further away from what had been a home to them for generations.

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by Phanyxx »

__sha3d2 wrote: post #30

I was going to come in here and talk about how this strikes me more as a personal choice than a symptom of a systemic problem (i lived well in SF on $60k, and I mean for fucks sake Stockton? that is aggressively far. There are many great closer options.), but who cares. This woman seems to have a really peaceful existence. It would be nice to have such relaxing routines in my own life, especially in the face of stres…

^Agreed, and agreed.

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by polotics »

cyri wrote: post #115
ucaetano wrote: post #52

San Francisco has more than twice the area of Manhattan, with half the population. The San Francisco Bay Area CSA has about the same population as Switzerland, with 2/3 of the area of Switzerland. Both have similar GDPs. If someone wanted to live in Germany, and commute to work in Zurich, with Swiss salaries and German cost-of-living, their commute would be about 1h15min. The housing and infrastructure problems in th…

Been doing that for a couple of years. Works well. No need to switch the train between Waldshut/Koblenz and Zurich. Allows me 2h of coding each day during the train ride.

Rheinfelden - Zürich: 70km, 59 minutes train ride

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by nshelly »

jdavis703 wrote: post #20

One way to make this better is to support the plan to inline the Capitol Corridor and ACE trains with Caltrain via the unused and abandoned Dumbarton rail bridge [0]. Make sure to tell your elected officials you support this. [0]: http://www.greencaltrain.com/2017/08/dumbarton-corridor-stud...

Also, as our nation's metro areas become more dense, we need to make sure we have train connections that are co-located. For example, Pleasanton ACE and Pleasanton BART, or in San Francisco Caltrain and Muni/BART, which they are doing with the multi-year Downtown Extension project. These little things make a huge difference. Commuters eliminate an additional connection and get a small walk in.

Diesel trains will eventually be replaced as well and then we can begin inlining but we should at least plan cities and stations to make public transit easier.

Re: A 2:15 Alarm, 2 Trains and a Bus Get Her to Work by 7 A.M

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Post by wang_li »

icebraining wrote: post #85
wang_li wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just yesterday I was commenting here on this very situation, but she has already moved her home out of the city in search of less expensive rent. She really should find a job out of the city as well. If the highly paid workers in the city want to buy coffee or sandwiches or whatever, they can pay prices that reflect the true cost of living in the city and not some indirect subsidized price.

She really should find a job out of the city as well. If the highly paid workers in the city want to buy coffee or sandwiches or whatever ...she's a public health adviser for the United States Department of Health and Human Services. I'm pretty sure she's not selling sandwiches.

The same principle applies.
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