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Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by jbrooksuk »

UnpossibleJim wrote: post #42
jbrooksuk wrote: post #2

- Batteries that last longer (in general). - 100%, 4G coverage wherever I am in the world. - Consistent and reliable internet speeds around the world.

I know this borders on sacrilege to say on HN, but I enjoy going out and camping in places where there is no coverage. Being utterly alone sometimes is nice...... I can see the stars (well, I live in Washington, so I have to travel a bit to camp where I can see the stars, but... you know). I, personally, would mourn a little if 4G reached everywhere.

I get that, I too enjoying switching off and doing nothing. It's when you need it for an emergency... that's when you realise how poor the global coverage is.

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by lumberjack »

Fifer82 wrote: post #54
lhnz wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, but I also think we can't just do this in a pure "freedom of speech" way. In order to have a space where we can talk about things calmly and respectfully we will need to shut-out "bad faith" actors, supremacists and ideologues. Otherwise they will pervert the dialogue in order to win some political battle and we risk the wrong outcomes. We have to come at this very directly from the perspective of the outcomes…

Is that not just saying discount everyone who doesn't agree with what WE want to talk about, and then lets talk about it?

No. Not everyone contributes to the discussion. Some people have malicious intent. Others are just ignorant. You cannot deal in absolutes. I work in the sciences. If we were to consider every crackpot's solution to the hardest problems in math/physics, we would waste our lives in folly and never get anything done.

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by StavrosK »

corporateslave3 wrote: post #49
StavrosK wrote: post #5

Minimum guaranteed income everywhere. Also cryptocurrencies (or at least one) becoming mainstream.

Minimum guaranteed income is the beginning of the end. From a humanist perspective it is great, but that is short sighted. Human beings are goal driven, strip away the necessity of that basic human drive and who knows what can happen. "Idle hands are the devil’s workshop"

The only thing motivating you is the fact that you'll starve if you don't work? That's some poor motivation, let me tell you.

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by hosh »

night815 wrote: post #30

Civilized discussion on hard topics -- There seems to be a large amount of shouting matches going on right now. We need to be able to discuss things in a calm and respectful manner even when we strongly disagree with the other side. There are a lot of buzz words that get thrown out that to me have lost meaning (racist, sexist, etc.). These words do have meaning and there are absolutely people doing these things that…

Agreed. Though I will also say, how to achieve this is exactly what is taught in Crucial Conversations.

Crucial conversations are moments when (1) opinions vary, (2) stakes are high, and (3) emotions run strong. How to have them, how to recognize when stakes start ramping up and people go into fight-or-flight, how to shift out of that, are all covered.

It starts with oneself and then the important relationships in our lives. Most of us have difficulty with crucial conversations with people we care about and our close relations. If we cannot even share meaning with people close to us, then we have no hope of sharing meaning with strangers.

This is what I have been working on myself. It has been challenging. And though I have not fully mastered it, I see a lot of results and relief.

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by hosh »

lhnz wrote: post #38
night815 wrote: post #30

Civilized discussion on hard topics -- There seems to be a large amount of shouting matches going on right now. We need to be able to discuss things in a calm and respectful manner even when we strongly disagree with the other side. There are a lot of buzz words that get thrown out that to me have lost meaning (racist, sexist, etc.). These words do have meaning and there are absolutely people doing these things that…

This, but I also think we can't just do this in a pure "freedom of speech" way. In order to have a space where we can talk about things calmly and respectfully we will need to shut-out "bad faith" actors, supremacists and ideologues. Otherwise they will pervert the dialogue in order to win some political battle and we risk the wrong outcomes. We have to come at this very directly from the perspective of the outcomes…

Going by what I am learning in Crucial Conversations: safety is achieved when you know the other person genuinely cares for you. In that space, people can talk about anything, no matter how controversial or intense.

This space is not an external space nor is it acheived through policy or code of conduct. This space is an internal space that is created when two or more people genuinely cares about each other despite having differences in opinion.

It follows that, the best way to create safe spaces is to first practice this with people you already have a relationship with, particularly those you have severe disagreements with.

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by night815 »

hosh wrote: post #65
night815 wrote: post #30

Civilized discussion on hard topics -- There seems to be a large amount of shouting matches going on right now. We need to be able to discuss things in a calm and respectful manner even when we strongly disagree with the other side. There are a lot of buzz words that get thrown out that to me have lost meaning (racist, sexist, etc.). These words do have meaning and there are absolutely people doing these things that…

Agreed. Though I will also say, how to achieve this is exactly what is taught in Crucial Conversations. Crucial conversations are moments when (1) opinions vary, (2) stakes are high, and (3) emotions run strong. How to have them, how to recognize when stakes start ramping up and people go into fight-or-flight, how to shift out of that, are all covered. It starts with oneself and then the important relationships in ou…

Yes, these discussions need to start happening on a personal, 1-on-1 level. Having these conversations on twitter or on some tv/radio talk show is too intense.

What would be interesting is reading a discussion by two thought leaders that could happen over email (read: slow medium of communication) and edited to bring out the best of each side. Heat of the moment discussions don't help anyone.

Going to take a look at Crucial Conversations. Thanks!

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by corporateslave3 »

StavrosK wrote: post #63
corporateslave3 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minimum guaranteed income is the beginning of the end. From a humanist perspective it is great, but that is short sighted. Human beings are goal driven, strip away the necessity of that basic human drive and who knows what can happen. "Idle hands are the devil’s workshop"

The only thing motivating you is the fact that you'll starve if you don't work? That's some poor motivation, let me tell you.

I am never in fear of starvation. Western civilization was built on the bedrock of contributing to society through labor. It's how the system works. That whole system will have to change if that axiom disappears. It is very naive to think that wont have a massive effect on mate selection, how people spend their time, morals, etc.

This isnt purely about economics. There are other deeper issues at play when you say people no longer need to work.

Re: Ask HN: One thing you wish would happen in the next 10 years?

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Post by taf2 »

amingilani wrote: post #23

Find a cure for death, a cure for aging and bio-replacements become as good as the original.. or better. It's what I've been dreaming about ever since CRISPR.

Me too I just think with this we also need to be able to travel faster than light to expand our access to resources
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