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Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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Are you saying that the password field returned a password hash of the correct password when you mistyped it? That's extremely bizarre.

Seems like some misused form framework. They were potentially striving for Facebook-like functionality ("Hi Tom, welcome back") and got it wrong.

Tom never used Facebook. He preferred a different social networking platform.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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A Dark Age of Camelot (MMORPG) chat log file analyzer written in Perl in 2003-2005 helped me land my first dev job.

I switched careers (due to lack of job openings) from becoming a protestant pastor to being a full time developer. I had almost no proof of having programmed in Perl for close to 6 years as a hobby, but the company desperately needed another coder and their senior programmer at that time had taken a look at my SF page. The boss was impressed when I said that my code had been downloaded by over a 1000 users, and so I got my first job, rewriting an SMS-messaging platform.

Now, over 10 years later, my GitHub profile only rarely comes up when recruiters try to reach me - some, I think, use web scraping to match profiles with LinkedIn / Xing to say nice things as a conversation starter in generic emails.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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Nobody ever looks at my repos :(. Software hiring is stupidly broken. Google has done much research on hiring and a code sample+cognitive ability are the two most important predictors of job performance. Tell that to anyone that hired me ever.... The first time you'll even talk to another dev is your on-site. When I was in charge of hiring once we made a huge deal of user repos and probably spent more time looking at…

What about people that don't have much on their github? I like the idea of judging people based on their code, but I would say the majority of people don't feel like coding at home after doing it for 8+ hours day.

As far as I can see, there isn't really much of an alternative to coding in your free time. It's the only way to stay current unless your employer gives you time to improve your skills on the job. Which usually means you are using unproven tools in production.

Your choices are: only stay at jobs that let you greenfield the most cutting edge, experimental technology in production, constantly develop yourself by working on your own on the side, or expect to be outmatched the next time you look for a job (when those experimental technologies have had the kinks worked out and are now suitable for production. Then the cycle starts again).

Or you can do what my father's generation of programmers did: stay with the same company doing the same thing for so long that you are no longer in the game.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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Nobody ever looks at my repos :(. Software hiring is stupidly broken. Google has done much research on hiring and a code sample+cognitive ability are the two most important predictors of job performance. Tell that to anyone that hired me ever.... The first time you'll even talk to another dev is your on-site. When I was in charge of hiring once we made a huge deal of user repos and probably spent more time looking at…

What about people that don't have much on their github? I like the idea of judging people based on their code, but I would say the majority of people don't feel like coding at home after doing it for 8+ hours day.

I've been in the industry for a little while and none of my senior or experienced coworkers have impressive profiles or open source contributions. Unless you're junior, it's really not that big a deal compared to your actual experience and skills.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about people that don't have much on their github? I like the idea of judging people based on their code, but I would say the majority of people don't feel like coding at home after doing it for 8+ hours day.

As far as I can see, there isn't really much of an alternative to coding in your free time. It's the only way to stay current unless your employer gives you time to improve your skills on the job. Which usually means you are using unproven tools in production. Your choices are: only stay at jobs that let you greenfield the most cutting edge, experimental technology in production, constantly develop yourself by workin…

Currently working with a bunch of guys out of the game. Spending about 4 hours of free time a day for over a month was the only way to break into new tech and absolutely vital to my recent job search.

Learned some cool stuff, but also how terribly behind my company was

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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Somehow I managed to land my first programming job in the most stereotypical means possible. I had connected with this young startup through my budding network. I was young, they were young, and we were both involved in TeensInTech (formerly a community of teens interested in startups). I had done a couple rounds of UI/UX feedback for them, that they had requested via TinT. The company made a password & bookmark mana…

Are you saying that the password field returned a password hash of the correct password when you mistyped it? That's extremely bizarre.

The specifics of it escape me at this point. My guess is that it was a hash of the incorrect password. That wasn't necessarily the security risk, but it did spark my curiosity that led to the rest.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

#97
I used to scan potential candidates Github repos but a recent job changed all that for me. A coworker was struggling at standup to handle a "deep get" in a JS object. I wrote a small function in five minutes and sent it over chat, thinking it'd unblock him and he could continue his tasks. He preceded to create a repo and added tests to the code and claimed it.

I imagine that in time, someone will look at that code and use it as a consideration for his employment and be just as disappointed in his output as I was. You may hate it but I love white-boarding with candidates. It's not a binary pass/fail exercise but a look into how a person approaches solving a problem and handling on-the-spot pressure. Sometimes things break in prod and the pressure is on, I want to work people that do well under that pressure.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that the password field returned a password hash of the correct password when you mistyped it? That's extremely bizarre.

Seems like some misused form framework. They were potentially striving for Facebook-like functionality ("Hi Tom, welcome back") and got it wrong.

I reported a similar issue in GitLab a while back where an incorrect password, entered in the login form, was echoed back to the user in the registration form! IIRC the registration form was picking up on the validation failure in the login form and filling itself in with the submitted form details.

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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Didn't actually know how to use git when I landed my first FT dev job. Had no Github Account, no portfolio site. Been coding since I was 12 though, had a good grasp of HTML/CSS, jQuery (but not really of javascript), VBScript, C#, SQL. All stuff I picked up either while making plugins/themes for a BBS I operated, or writing scripts for bots for MMORPGs. My code quality sucked, but I made stuff that people (other BBS…

How do you get promoted so quickly? I've worked my ass off at several companies and been in high positions at early startups but when I ask for a promotion everyone so far has said no"sorry, you only have X years experience". Maybe I'm not working for the right places...

Re: Ask HN: Self-taught developers, what repo helped land your first job?

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I wrote a disk bootloader that could intercept BIOS disk writes, and then continued loading DOS. And then there was a DOS TSR that monitored... (don't remember). Needless to say, this was the late 80's/early 90's. It impressed some interviewers back in the day.
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