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MongoDB has filed confidentially for IPO

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Post by merb »

kuschku wrote: post #16
olegkikin wrote: post #12

A side note: MongoDB now dominates the famous framework benchmark in the read benchmarks. https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/

With 1.4% more performance than PostgreSQL, and far less guarantees w.r.t. schema. Yeah, that's not hard. It's surprising it took them this long. EDIT: The performance comparison that was linked, and that I was referring to: http://i.imgur.com/Thk5DlU.png

well I wouldn't account that benchmark. Not for mongodb and especially not for PostgreSQL. TechEmpower Benchmarks are mostly not really showcasing real world. Just looking at their PostgreSQL config will highlight that. (Especially: https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks/blob/mast...) And also most of the time their libraries/frameworks are outdated or not even configured correctly. It shouldn't be taken as a reference in any way without additional benchmarking.

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Post by mikekchar »

keithwhor wrote: post #86
mattmanser wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair to them, it wasn't just them, it was everyone.

To be more fair to them, it was just them and the "everyone" you're referring to was a result of a fantastic blatant + guerilla marketing campaign. Or maybe I should say a MEAN success? :)

It may seem like that from a certain perspective, but I remember drowning in the hype in 1992. It was going to be the next big thing: everything is going C++; you want objects; why would you store relational tables, when you want objects?; relational databases are just slow, clunky and complicate your code base. The company I was working at even tried it... very briefly :-) Unfortunately, I don't remember what we tried, but there were several around at the time. This stuff wasn't invented by MongoDB.

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Post by dx034 »

dsmithatx wrote: post #44
myth_drannon wrote: post #26

It looks like the NoSQL movement was just a fad and plenty of startups got burned by it and some still stuck with this tech , writing inefficient workarounds for something that comes OTB with the regular SQL databases.

I worked with one of the largest ad publishing companies. They wanted to track data about every client served an ad. This generated over 1.2 Terabyte per hour of data when the MySQL master started to max out. We had the largest possible multiple core system. It was going to cost my client $30k to upgrade to SSD drives to get more out of MySQL. Also note we had to store this data on an expensive SAN in order to feed t…

How can MongoDB use that much less in such a situation? Especially prior to WireTiger?

An optimised schema in a relational database should be close to the minimum possible storage.

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Post by revmoo »

meowface wrote: post #53
leothekim wrote: post #8

They've made their share of mistakes, but they've stuck it out and have definitely improved their product over the years. I wish them all the best for their IPO. What would be really good to see As a measure of their business health is an indication of how their cloud business is doing with respect to their enterprise sales business. A healthy cloud business would signal less volatility in the face of high revenue ga…

Reliability and implementation ideas aside, MongoDB popularized document stores and document stores can sometimes be a good thing (even if there's usually little to no reason to prefer them to plain SQL databases for most applications). So they deserve credit there.

Name one reason why you should use MongoDB over something like Postgres with its JSON column type.

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Post by dx034 »

patrickfreed wrote: post #60
jaequery wrote: post #50

think it is a bad fit and a bad time for an IPO, their market just isnt big enough and their losing a lot of steam as of late. most importantly in terms of numbers, there is nothing going for them. they arent exactly redhat level in terms of support, nor rackspace level for subscriptions, and nor snapchat level in terms of market reach. this looks like some last effort cash out sort of deal to me. weird to say that i…

>their market just isnt big enough the database market is one of the biggest software markets out there, if not the biggest. >their losing a lot of steam as of late at least according ot google trends, mongodb is more popular than ever. >last effort cash out sort of deal to me they're hiring like crazy and looking to grow a ton in the next year, so I don't think that's the case.

Google Trends indicates how many new projects look for a database. Database companies typically make money with existing projects (subscription fees or occasionally new versions).

I agree that MongoDB is considered for many new projects but they will have very low market share for existing enterprise projects (which is where the money is).

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Post by DenisM »

qaq wrote: post #46
dsmithatx wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked with one of the largest ad publishing companies. They wanted to track data about every client served an ad. This generated over 1.2 Terabyte per hour of data when the MySQL master started to max out. We had the largest possible multiple core system. It was going to cost my client $30k to upgrade to SSD drives to get more out of MySQL. Also note we had to store this data on an expensive SAN in order to feed t…

A production large scale ad. system system that was doing 1.2 TB per hour in writes, was migrated over from MySQL to MongoDB in roughly 24 hour window cool story Bro.

Good point. How is it possible to move that much data from SAN to mongo cluster in such a short time window?

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Post by qaq »

DenisM wrote: post #97
qaq wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A production large scale ad. system system that was doing 1.2 TB per hour in writes, was migrated over from MySQL to MongoDB in roughly 24 hour window cool story Bro.

Good point. How is it possible to move that much data from SAN to mongo cluster in such a short time window?

and rewrite and validate all the code that was accessing MySQL to use MongoDB

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Post by overcast »

myth_drannon wrote: post #26

It looks like the NoSQL movement was just a fad and plenty of startups got burned by it and some still stuck with this tech , writing inefficient workarounds for something that comes OTB with the regular SQL databases.

Which amazes me how RethinkDB never eclipsed all of the other "nosql" offerings. A relational, realtime, document store. You get the benefits from both sides.
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