Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

As a consumer, it's great to see competition picking up in the CPU market. Intel does not seem to be able to hold the edge in node process as tsmc and Samsung are matching intel. It has to resort to architecture design.

Re: Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

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Post by wmf » Wed, Aug 16, 2017, 1:48 AM UTC

nodesocket wrote: post #2

Is this Intel's response to AMD Threadripper and EPYC?

No, that would be Cascade Lake-X and Cascade Lake-SP.

Re: Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

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Post by wmf » Wed, Aug 16, 2017, 1:50 AM UTC

nullnilvoid wrote: post #4

As a consumer, it's great to see competition picking up in the CPU market. Intel does not seem to be able to hold the edge in node process as tsmc and Samsung are matching intel. It has to resort to architecture design.

Ice Lake has been delayed from 2017 to 2018, so I'm not sure what competition has to do with it.

Re: Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

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Post by spyhi » Wed, Aug 16, 2017, 2:09 AM UTC

wmf wrote: post #6

nullnilvoid wrote: post #4

As a consumer, it's great to see competition picking up in the CPU market. Intel does not seem to be able to hold the edge in node process as tsmc and Samsung are matching intel. It has to resort to architecture design.

Ice Lake has been delayed from 2017 to 2018, so I'm not sure what competition has to do with it.

> it's rare these days for Intel to talk more than a generation ahead in CPU architectures.

This, to me, looks like the PS2 vs Dreamcast move, where Sony blocked Dreamcast sales with PS2 hype. We've been waiting for 10nm for a while now, and now Intel is essentially confirming "yes, it's really coming this time" where they might not have otherwise--it's hard to not see that as a reaction to Threadripper. At least on the surface, increased competition has led to increased transparency, which is good for consumers...or at least I'm happy knowing I have the option to avoid a big, hot, power-hungry chip if I want to.

Re: Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

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Re: Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

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Post by slededit » Wed, Aug 16, 2017, 2:19 AM UTC

At this point real compute happens on the GPU. I think we'll see a shift to major apps being driven by GPGPU.

The CPU's performance has started matter less and less.

Re: Intel Reveals Post-8th Gen. Core Architecture 10nm+ Ice Lake

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Post by GuiA » Wed, Aug 16, 2017, 2:26 AM UTC

According to the table in the article:

- 2011: 32nm

- 2012: 22nm

- 2014: 14nm

- 2018?: 10nm

I don't know much about foundry processes, but it seems that it's taking more and more time for lesser and lesser gains, right? At this rate, how long until we reach sub nanometer? What are the physical limits on these processes, and does it have any implications for end users? Will we be using 2nm CPUs for 50 years?

Would love to hear the thinking of anyone educated on the topic.

Edit: very intrigued by the sustained downvotes on this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯