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Re: Quitting Caffeine

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I'm addicted to black tea. If I don't have two cups, daily, I get bad headaches.

It's not caffeine, because coffee doesn't substitute, neither does green tea.

So it must be some stimulant unique to black tea.

Maybe theobromine, theophylline, or L-Theanine? (see http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/stimulants-in-tea - maybe a questionable source...)

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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One of the more interesting comments in the article is in regards to the social stigma of only consuming water during meals - people who have quit alcohol for various reasons have faced the same stigma when going out with friends. I've found that ordering something that has little to no calories or substance goes a long way to alleviate these fears (like tonic or sparkling water). Because something like this still co…

On behalf of drinkers, I apologize for the that a lot of drinkers act this way. Personally I really don't care what anybody else consumes and I certainly don't look down on people for not drinking. People have lots of good reasons to abstain from drinking, and zero of those reasons are my business (unless they want to share)

I agree here.

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I actually drink beer quite regularly, and whiskey when I am more in the mood (and in the money). (see: Canadian)

That said I rarely drink when I'm out with coworker, or I'll limit myself to a beer or two. I've never seen a real hard time from anybody, but I'm also a stubborn person when I feel the need to be. I wouldn't dream of giving anybody a hard time about not drinking and certainly would never look down on anybody for not partaking.

I think my only hope is that this view is reciprocated. I've found drinkers can just as often be condescended to for the indulgence -- and unless one really cuts loose and acts like an idiot, I think it's unwarranted and in poor taste... that it can be seen as an act of lower intelligence, or whatever you want.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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One of the more interesting comments in the article is in regards to the social stigma of only consuming water during meals - people who have quit alcohol for various reasons have faced the same stigma when going out with friends. I've found that ordering something that has little to no calories or substance goes a long way to alleviate these fears (like tonic or sparkling water). Because something like this still co…

I think your perception is stronger than the actual social effect - people who object to others not drinking are loud, but in my experience very much the minority.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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Quitting caffeine is hard, but I found a workaround: get the flu. If you're like me, when you're sick in bed, the last thing you'll want is coffee. By the end of your flu, you'll also have gotten off caffeine and you'll have ascribed the withdrawal symptoms to the flu. Done! Now go buy some decaf :-)

My father quit smoking this way.

I quit smoking similarly -- a bit of a hangover, an illness, followed by a terrible week of digestive issues (likely due to the quitting smoking) and after the week, not starting again wasn't a problem.

Now I wish I'd never done it in the first place, but here we are.

I think it just comes down to feeling unable to procure the item of your addiction -- and the mental position to want to leave it behind. I couldn't properly quit until that point... pure resolve. Pure resolve, and being stuck in bed in terrible pain for a week (haha?)

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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I am a coffee drinker but I don't really get boost or anything. Nor do I feel tired or anything else that could be called withdrawal during the weekends, when I don't drink it. For me, making a cup of coffee is just a... ritual of sorts. Weighting the beans, pouring over water, all these things. And I really enjoy the taste, trying different beans. I don't want to sound pretentious, it's just a hobby for me. Maybe th…

Two days is not enough. Try being off it for a week. I bet you will feel terible on day 4.

Not really. I drink coffee off and on throughout the day, too - but to be fair, I'm making each cup fresh and rarely drink two cups in a row.

Folks react really differently to caffeine. I've never been able to use it to fight against sleepyness, for example. I'm fine drinking it before bed, though I try to give 30 minutes afterwards just so I can pee. I miss drinking coffee if I quit, and tea is hardly a replacement if you are skipping caffeine. (My other beverage is water, and I don't vary often). My father, on the other hand, needed to stop caffeine after lunchtime to sleep well at night. My mother develops headaches, which might not be a problem if it weren't for migraines and cluster headaches. Oddly enough, sometimes the caffeine helps that bit.

Other folks get grouchy if they quit suddenly. A few get hungry, and some folks just feel generally bad.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm..reading this makes me wonder ... I noticed that life is running extremely fast lately and I am having a hard time being "in the moment" ... and I drink a lot of coffee. I really enjoy everything about coffee from roasting to brewing though, so it would probably be quite hard giving it up. Anyway, thanks for sharing this, I will take a long look at that.

I noticed that life is running extremely fast lately and I am having a hard time being "in the moment" ... and I drink a lot of coffee. I drink a lot of coffee. I'm a very in the moment person, meditate regularly, enjoy and live in the moment, etc. This is an approach to life thing that is quite orthogonal to whether you drink coffee or not.

Being in the moment has a lot to do with getting enough sleep. Caffeine is generally bad for peoples sleep quality and quantity, but there is also a lot of variability in this.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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I find it hard to take articles around this seriously when they don't take into consideration the huge variability humans show in metabolising coffee and it's related health effects. A light introduction can be found here: https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/for-coffee-drinker... A more in depth can be found: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4242593/ It's all about CYP1A2

I'm the original author. I tried to make clear this was lessons learned from my personal experience. I see here a few people claiming caffeine does not affect them at all. I'll update the post to try to make clearer that I am personally affected by caffeine and maybe this does not apply to all people.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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I've been off Caffeine for a good two years now and have no plans of going back. Life runs too fast for me on caffeine, yes I can blow through work faster, but when I was on caffeine it would feel like days, weeks, months would go by in the blink of an eye. I wasn't enjoying the moment.. and then I stopped drinking caffeine. Life became more present for me, not slower in the bad sense, but that I was able to relish e…

......how many cups a day were you drinking?

Just one in the morning.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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What the author didn't mention, and I haven't seen mentioned in these comments, are the extremely beneficial health effects of coffee (not caffeine, decaf has shown the same benefits). Most significantly, studies have shown that coffee reduces overall mortality rates significantly, with the reduced chance of dying from any cause increasing with coffee consumption (up to a point). >Compared with nonconsumers, particip…

I'm the original author. I did mention that there may be health benefits to caffeine. You make a good point that it may be coffee and not caffeine that people find beneficial. Nevertheless, as I mentioned in the post, I'm skeptical of reports of the benefits of consuming something as most such reports come from entities trying to sell you something or people who want to rationalize their own consumption. I'll try to update the post later to clarify.

Re: Quitting Caffeine

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I've been off coffee for 1 month now. I've drank one or 2 decaff cortado or americanos because I like the taste of coffee, but I feel like decaf doesn't taste as good. I was a good week with intense headaches, it was scary. I used to drink 1 or 2 a day, nothing more. As for the link, it doesn't work ... hackernews DoS induced?

Btw to eliminate withdrawal headaches one only needs a small amount of caffeine. I've taken one caffeine pill per day for about a week (~100mg daily depending on brand which is less than one cup of coffee equivalent).

Well, the headaches were annoying, but it seems so much simpler to just go cold turkey.
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