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Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by notreallythough »

microcolonel wrote: post #18
threatofrain wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you'd be better received if you didn't speak so cryptically. What do you mean an answer in search of a question? Do you want us to meditate on that like a Buddhist koan? You're implying a hidden knowledge of just what critical concerns people are ignoring, but you won't tell us.

> I think you'd be better received if you didn't speak so cryptically. What do you mean an answer in search of a question? Do you want us to meditate on that like a Buddhist koan? Sorry if I was unclear. I meant to make the same statement as the first, in a different form. I hoped that providing two versions of the same statement, folks would have a better chance of understanding what I meant. Once more: Nobody just…

so you're saying that I should be responsible for the mental well being of an adult who thinks eradicating entire races of people will solve all of their problems

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by microcolonel »

kaden wrote: post #12
epistasis wrote: post #10

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This sort of sophistry is a mental virus. Say what you mean, stop with the mealy-mouthed "whataboutism" and vague questions. There are no communists involved in this discussion. Nobody calls Nazis "National Socialists" unless they're trying to blame the nebulous "left" for the evils of the Nazis. We've been through these arguments since the 1940s. Karl Popper's view of the Paradox of Tolerance [1] >Less well known is…

Just for the record, this is in his bio: >you can be accosted for publicly engaging a wrongthinker. I don't think he cares about rationality, let alone having the fortitude to say what he means. "Everyone else is wrong and when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984."

> when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984.

Well, it seems like my concerns are well-founded; because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why, I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon.

Now imagine somebody else who doesn't feel comfortable with the (fairly mild here, thank you folks) level of hostility that I do; that mild-mannered person is the one I want to have an outlet for their thoughts so they don't stew in their own heads.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by kaden »

microcolonel wrote: post #22
kaden wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just for the record, this is in his bio: >you can be accosted for publicly engaging a wrongthinker. I don't think he cares about rationality, let alone having the fortitude to say what he means. "Everyone else is wrong and when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984."

> when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984. Well, it seems like my concerns are well-founded; because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why, I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon. Now imagine somebody else who doesn't feel comfortable with the (fairly mild here, thank you folks) level of hostility…

> because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why

Technically I read the thread and then looked at your profile. Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously discuss matters in a forthright manner without trying to weasel your way around the topic. It's almost absurdly comical at how consistently you find such silliness.

>I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon.

I'm quoting this just to draw attention to it.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by mnm1 »

microcolonel wrote: post #18
threatofrain wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you'd be better received if you didn't speak so cryptically. What do you mean an answer in search of a question? Do you want us to meditate on that like a Buddhist koan? You're implying a hidden knowledge of just what critical concerns people are ignoring, but you won't tell us.

> I think you'd be better received if you didn't speak so cryptically. What do you mean an answer in search of a question? Do you want us to meditate on that like a Buddhist koan? Sorry if I was unclear. I meant to make the same statement as the first, in a different form. I hoped that providing two versions of the same statement, folks would have a better chance of understanding what I meant. Once more: Nobody just…

Many people are concerned about jobs, healthcare, and security but only fucking nazis and other white supremacist pieces of shit are concerned about "the uncertainty of demographic shifts (especially the shrinking proportion of their own race, and the growing relevance of race in public discourse)." That's not a normal concern and choosing to become a white supremacist because you have such concerns is no excuse for these lowlifes. These people choose hate and no amount of apologizing for their disgusting choices is ever going to make that ok. They could choose to talk to other people who are different than them and realize that good people come in all colors, nationalities, etc. But no, they choose hate and they choose violence. Fuck them. We've had hundreds of years of this shit all over the world but especially in the U.S. and finally people are standing up to this shit en masse and refusing to accept it. It's about fucking time to stop being tolerant of these hateful, violent fucks. Society is slowly moving on.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by majewsky »

supremesaboteur wrote: post #19
unhumanrights wrote: post #2

http://blogs.intel.com/policy/2017/08/14/intel-ceo-leaves-ma... Earlier today, I tendered my resignation from the American Manufacturing Council. I resigned to call attention to the serious harm our divided political climate is causing to critical issues, including the serious need to address the decline of American manufacturing. Politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding Ameri…

> I called on all leaders to condemn the white supremacists and their ilk who marched and committed violence https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/us/politics/trump-charlot...

As the title says, it took him more than 2 days to arrive at this marvelous revelation.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by [deleted] »

majewsky wrote: post #25
supremesaboteur wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I called on all leaders to condemn the white supremacists and their ilk who marched and committed violence https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/us/politics/trump-charlot...

As the title says, it took him more than 2 days to arrive at this marvelous revelation.

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Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by cgmg »

notreallythough wrote: post #20
cgmg wrote: post #17

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"Not even remotely the same thing. Not even in the same galaxy. Not even in the same universe." What do you mean? They're both totalitarian ideologies and have much in common.

So you agree with white supremacy because there are similarities between a specific group of communists and specific group of socialists. Fascinating.

"So you agree with white supremacy..."

You've got to be kidding me.

Point out exactly where in my comment I agreed with white supremacy.

I disagreed with literally one point in your comment and that means I suport white supremacy? Fascinating.

Looks like you're only reading what your emotions want you to read and not what people are actually writing.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by microcolonel »

kaden wrote: post #23
microcolonel wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984. Well, it seems like my concerns are well-founded; because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why, I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon. Now imagine somebody else who doesn't feel comfortable with the (fairly mild here, thank you folks) level of hostility…

> because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why Technically I read the thread and then looked at your profile. Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously…

> Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio

Well, I added it a few days ago because somebody found a way to contact me, and it made them feel less isolated. They told me that I should have my email address in my HN bio with some words of encouragement (it's meant to be playful, if you didn't detect), so I added it. If you get the impression that it's there to play into my ego, well, that's less of a problem than the crushing loneliness of even one person.

> that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously discuss matters in a forthright manner without trying to weasel your way around the topic.

What have I not been forthright about? I am here, a fully identifiable human being. I was making conversation in the wee hours of the morning, and you two took your egg accounts and started assassinating my character. I did not resort to the same tactics, and I tried to answer each jab and remark as clearly as I could manage. I made sure not to make it personal.

> I'm quoting this just to draw attention to it.

Perhaps we can all sound cryptic sometimes. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I'm saying that if you have it in for me, and (for example) you have direct access to a blacklist of some sort (usually reserved for management, and not peons), it'll do me no good that you're upset and willing to look for my bio.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by notreallythough »

cgmg wrote: post #27
notreallythough wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you agree with white supremacy because there are similarities between a specific group of communists and specific group of socialists. Fascinating.

"So you agree with white supremacy..." You've got to be kidding me. Point out exactly where in my comment I agreed with white supremacy. I disagreed with literally one point in your comment and that means I suport white supremacy? Fascinating. Looks like you're only reading what your emotions want you to read and not what people are actually writing.

No, I'm making a point about white supremacy and you're being pedantic about something tangentially related. It doesn't fucking matter how similar socialism is to communism when white supremacy is the outcome.

The Titanic is sinking and you're arguing with me about the difference between row boats and sail boats.

Re: Intel CEO Resigns from Trump's Manufacturing Council

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Post by cgmg »

notreallythough wrote: post #29
cgmg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"So you agree with white supremacy..." You've got to be kidding me. Point out exactly where in my comment I agreed with white supremacy. I disagreed with literally one point in your comment and that means I suport white supremacy? Fascinating. Looks like you're only reading what your emotions want you to read and not what people are actually writing.

No, I'm making a point about white supremacy and you're being pedantic about something tangentially related. It doesn't fucking matter how similar socialism is to communism when white supremacy is the outcome. The Titanic is sinking and you're arguing with me about the difference between row boats and sail boats.

You literally accused me of supporting white supremacy because I disagreed with a point you made. That shouldn't be taken lightly.

At the very least you should take responsibility for your own behavior and apologize.

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