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What is the point in quitting? You just went from some voice to zero. This is just virtue-signaling and is non-productive.
Having a voice is pointless if the person you're speaking to has no intention of listening.
Major companies that still have representatives in the council: GM, Blackrock, BCG, Walmart, Boeing, Pepsi, IBM, GE, Dow, Dell, Whirlpool, Ford, Johnson&Johnson, Lockheed Martin, US Steel, 3M, Corning Everyone who has left: Uber(Travel Ban and #DeleteUber), Disney(Paris withdrawal), Tesla/SpaceX(Paris Withdrawal). And now Merck, Under Armour and Intel(all left after failure to condemn white supremacists)
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You're honestly putting too much stock in the media's narrative. Were you not watching the violence coming from left-wing protesters for the last couple of years? Such as Antifa and similar groups smashing towns and beating people with fists and shovels. It's a miracle the guy they were beating on the streets of Berkeley didn't die. Edit: and how about the Scalise shooting or the police officers killed at the hands o…
There was also the assassination of police officers in Dallas last year. That's on top of a series of ambush style killings of police officers. EDIT: Would downvoters care to explain where I'm mistaken?
You hear people chant speak truth to power when they repeat the safe narrative and everyone pats their back.
The fact that the media, large corporate business leaders, online forums, and government representatives are dog piling all over this narrative and ignoring even basic facts and events that happened in very recent memory, it should shock anyone paying attention to what is currently going on.
It's called censorship to blatantly disregard and shout down any opinion or factual information that works against the popularly driven editorial narrative, which is now apparently that Trump and his supporters are extremist violent Neo nazi kkk communist Russian spies, and I'm not even joking when I put that list together.
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I don't understand the claim that moderates have no voice in the United States. I'm not American, but have spent quite a lot of time in the country. From my point of view, most of the media is moderate left -- and they have a very loud voice indeed. The extreme left exists but has very little visibility compared to France, for example. (That is convenient for right-wing press like Breitbart, because it lets them pain…
You are correct. The problem is that the current president and the non-quiet part of the GOP wants to paint the factual moderate news media (or "MSM") as a liberal conspiracy.
It's not a conspiracy. You can have emergent bias as much as planned bias. That's basically the position of various HR departments who offer unconscious bias training.
At any rate, every study I've seen has confirmed that most media orgs at least lean left. Have you seen any that disagree?
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There were far more candidates that did not run on racist, misogynist platforms, ie. Bush, Rubio, Johnson. Trump was never the most moderate. The Republican party didn't even choose him. Their constituents did. And if they had been paying attention they would have known a demagogue could have walked off with the party base.
Well, the media liked giving him lots of attention and air time. It was in the best interest of left wing demagogues to get a fresh new bad guy for the new season of American Politics.
Also, I don't think anyone on the left needed a new, worse bad guy. We've had plenty sitting in Congress.
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It is if the president is. I'm not saying our current one is, just that logically, if the president is, then it would be moderate to describe him as he is. Also, a comparison to them in the 1930s, say pre-Kristalnacht, is different and may have more relevance than a comparison to them in the mid-40s.
I personally dont't think Trump is a Nazi. But it seems he doesnt mind Nazi support and is not willing to piss them off if it costs him their vote.
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> Giving up on the administration is not a political win, it is damage control. I gave up on Trump in the winter of 2015/2016. I'm way ahead of you there. I'm just saying people have valid thoughts (polarization in general leads to t his) that might be considered premature. But if we're going to be evenhanded, angry left-wing people need to honor a cool off period for a while. Keep in mind that moderates who dislike…
> moderates who dislike Trump from the start can fairly blame left-wing shenanigans, at least partly, for the rise of Trump What? The rise of Trump was entirely down to the GOP - for years - stoking both racial and anti-liberal resentment with only one goal - to dismantle anything Obama touched.
And I think you're ignoring a lot of things the left has been up to. The IRS scandal was a big deal, for example.
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You're honestly putting too much stock in the media's narrative. Were you not watching the violence coming from left-wing protesters for the last couple of years? Such as Antifa and similar groups smashing towns and beating people with fists and shovels. It's a miracle the guy they were beating on the streets of Berkeley didn't die. Edit: and how about the Scalise shooting or the police officers killed at the hands o…
There was also the assassination of police officers in Dallas last year. That's on top of a series of ambush style killings of police officers. EDIT: Would downvoters care to explain where I'm mistaken?
On the day the shooter was killed, Obama gave a press conference[1] where he said:
We still don’t know all the facts. What we do know is that there’s been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. Police in Dallas were on duty, doing their job, keeping people safe during a peaceful protest. These law enforcement officers were targeted, and nearly a dozen officers were shot, five were killed.... According to police there are multiple suspects. We will learn more undoubtedly about their twisted motivations, but let’s be clear, there is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks. Grave violence against law enforcement. The FBI is already in touch with the Dallas police; anyone involved in these senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done.
Three days later he had returned from Spain (before planned) to visit the survivors, where he ... described the Dallas shooting as a "hate crime" against police, according to a top law enforcement representative in the meeting with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden. One really striking thing the president said in his opening remarks was that the shooting in Dallas in many ways was strikingly parallel to the Dylann Roof shooting in Charleston in the sense that it was a hate crime[2]
The Dallas shooting were a terrible thing, and Obama seems to have responded as one would expect a President should.
Outside the Dallas shooting, Obama himself seems to have had some issues with police behavior. But that didn't stop him saying what should be said.
[1] http://fortune.com/2016/07/08/transcript-obama-dallas-police...
[2] http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-dallas-police-sh...
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You're honestly putting too much stock in the media's narrative. Were you not watching the violence coming from left-wing protesters for the last couple of years? Such as Antifa and similar groups smashing towns and beating people with fists and shovels. It's a miracle the guy they were beating on the streets of Berkeley didn't die. Edit: and how about the Scalise shooting or the police officers killed at the hands o…
There's a time for that discussion. But not now. Nazis, KKK, and white supremacists terrorized a town and killed a women. And our morally depraved president couldn't bring himself to put a name to evil.
Having seen a video of the incident, the more cynical side in me whispers that those masked and armed “protesters” just nearly got more than they bargained for when coming to pick up fights, not that it justifies anyone's actions. The actual victim may have not been a part of these hooligans but certainly treaded a no-good group of people quite closely.