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Re: Intel CEO leaves American Manufacturing Council

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Post by jacquesm »

vowelless wrote: post #17
jacquesm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/merck-ceo-resigns-from-trump...

Thanks. I heard about that. I am not sure how much resigning will help, but it needs to be done.

It sends a pretty strong message that certain ideologies are not an option for some of the American captains of industry. Trump is rather big on having their attention so them resigning sends a clear signal that if this is the path Trump wants to be on it will be a lonely one. Whether or not that message will be received and how it will be interpreted if it is received is an entirely different matter.

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Post by croon »

bitL wrote: post #12

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." -- Abraham Lincoln Pretty worrying to observe the polarization in the US where IMO both left and right are full of extremist views and moderates have no audible voice.

Nope, mostly just the right.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/yes-pol...

http://news.wgbh.org/2017/03/15/politics-government/major-ne...

Re: Intel CEO leaves American Manufacturing Council

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Post by mrbiber »

bitL wrote: post #12

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." -- Abraham Lincoln Pretty worrying to observe the polarization in the US where IMO both left and right are full of extremist views and moderates have no audible voice.

This is not about some general vague problem with "extremism" of which supposedly all sides are guilty. This is about the emergence of a right-wing terrorist movement which has already committed several attacks. When your first reaction to this is to to bring in some unspecified crimes of the left, then this calls into question whether you understand the seriousness of the situation. There is a real chance that real, actual fascists kill many more people and perhaps even gain more political power. We can talk about this without engaging in some false equivalence.

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Post by jackmott »

pc86 wrote: post #14
lex_luthor wrote: post #9

Glad to hear that a lot these CEOs are resigning. To be honest, the council is most likely better off without them as a lot of these big corporations favor offshore outsourcing and profit immensely from payroll/labor arbitrage.

> payroll/labor arbitrage Or as it's known outside of academia, "business."

im not sure many of the disaffected youth turning into nazis have been in academia much

Re: Intel CEO leaves American Manufacturing Council

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Post by ikeyany »

jacquesm wrote: post #6
low_battery wrote: post #4

What took him so long?

I suspect that he thought that it would be possible to work some change from the inside. Now that the optical disadvantages of being closer to Trump have clearly outweighed the advantages there is no other choice left than to resign.

But Trump has been bedfellows with white supremacists since day one. All of a sudden there are "optical disadvantages" of being closer to him?

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Post by lkbm »

pc86 wrote: post #14
lex_luthor wrote: post #9

Glad to hear that a lot these CEOs are resigning. To be honest, the council is most likely better off without them as a lot of these big corporations favor offshore outsourcing and profit immensely from payroll/labor arbitrage.

> payroll/labor arbitrage Or as it's known outside of academia, "business."

That's a much broader term. Being specific is very helpful in communication. If you just want to switch to a more easily understood term, "cheaper labor" seems like it would work.

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Post by woofyman »

williamgb wrote: post #26
jackmott wrote: post #20

the left are mostly moderates. we lost our shit and started sounding like extremists when we elected a nazi as president. I will not apologize for that either.

The right are mostly moderates too, no?

Moderate Republicans have been driven out of the party. They're considered RINOS.

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Post by croon »

williamgb wrote: post #26
jackmott wrote: post #20

the left are mostly moderates. we lost our shit and started sounding like extremists when we elected a nazi as president. I will not apologize for that either.

The right are mostly moderates too, no?

The right ran 200 yards further right. As much as I hate Reagan, that guy wouldn't recognize the current GOP. There are barely any moderate republicans left.

The current GOP is defunding everything from the state department, EPA to education. Meanwhile the democrats (outside of Sanders who's a self-defined independent, and Warren) are afraid to even suggest universal healthcare because it would be too left-leaning.

The democrats are TOO moderate.

Re: Intel CEO leaves American Manufacturing Council

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Post by jacquesm »

ikeyany wrote: post #25
jacquesm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that he thought that it would be possible to work some change from the inside. Now that the optical disadvantages of being closer to Trump have clearly outweighed the advantages there is no other choice left than to resign.

But Trump has been bedfellows with white supremacists since day one. All of a sudden there are "optical disadvantages" of being closer to him?

> But Trump has been bedfellows with white supremacists since day one.

Yes, but there were people who thought that once he became president his true nature would come out and things would be better and that he was merely using these people as a tool to get elected. Now, he probably did use them as a tool to get elected but at the same time I suspect that his real sympathies lie with them rather than with the groups that would like to consider everybody equal before the law.

> All of a sudden there are "optical disadvantages" of being closer to him?

Well, there probably always were disadvantages but they are becoming rather more pronounced now. People are calling for boycotts of the products of companies standing with Trump and every action that Trump takes that forces them to either go all in or denounce him will cause a few to break off. It's surprising me that so many companies are still on board.

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