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Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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The secret Apple project for potentially blood glucose monitoring would be amazing. Non-interstitial fluid / noninvasive sounds like a really hard problem that may require a very bright light source and/or a sensor more sensitive than used for heart rate. It's a worthy goal. Even more awesome would be a limited generic mass-spectrometer that could do more, arbitrary blood chemistry quantification in software without having to develop many/additional specialized sensors.

Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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I hate this, right now, you can’t do anything out of free will.

I’m not insured with them, but if I am, can I go to the gym, and enjoy it, or will I be always subconsciously thinking “I’m doing this to save insurance money”.

I’m saddened to see Apple go that way to sell Apple Watches, I would expect this from many companies, none of them being Apple. BTW, loving my Series 0 since the first day they came out.

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"Aetna now reportedly has ambitions to offer it to a wider field — adding large swaths of new health data to pull from and giving the health insurance company insight into the activities of its customers." Oh God no!

Right?!! The beginning of the end - so long, and thanks for all the fish!

Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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"Aetna now reportedly has ambitions to offer it to a wider field — adding large swaths of new health data to pull from and giving the health insurance company insight into the activities of its customers." Oh God no!

It'll be opt-in and this isn't a new thing - there's several UK insurers that'll give you discounts and bonuses for life insurance if you log workouts with their apps. This just makes it easier for both sides.

Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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post #4

"Aetna now reportedly has ambitions to offer it to a wider field — adding large swaths of new health data to pull from and giving the health insurance company insight into the activities of its customers." Oh God no!

It'll be opt-in and this isn't a new thing - there's several UK insurers that'll give you discounts and bonuses for life insurance if you log workouts with their apps. This just makes it easier for both sides.

honestly I'd support a program where the more you work out the lower your insurance premiums would be. Pretty hard to cheat workouts with Apple Watch when it has a heart rate sensor and all that.

Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll be opt-in and this isn't a new thing - there's several UK insurers that'll give you discounts and bonuses for life insurance if you log workouts with their apps. This just makes it easier for both sides.

honestly I'd support a program where the more you work out the lower your insurance premiums would be. Pretty hard to cheat workouts with Apple Watch when it has a heart rate sensor and all that.

Vitality (in the UK) link with a whole range of things - Health, Fitbit, Garmin, Polar, Moves, Nokia, etc.

Although you get rewards from them (Starbucks drinks, cinema tickets, etc.) rather than straight discounts on your insurance.

Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll be opt-in and this isn't a new thing - there's several UK insurers that'll give you discounts and bonuses for life insurance if you log workouts with their apps. This just makes it easier for both sides.

honestly I'd support a program where the more you work out the lower your insurance premiums would be. Pretty hard to cheat workouts with Apple Watch when it has a heart rate sensor and all that.

It isn't a horrible idea in the abstract but it seems likely sex would trigger data similar to most workouts. Also, there are people who eat healthy but don't have time for the gym. Conversely people who go to the gym everyday but mostly to try to burn up their Big Mac combo meal. From an insurance standpoint, I think HA1C is the only measure we could like use. Things like BMI, etc. are too varied based on genetics.

Re: Apple in talks with Aetna to bring Apple Watch to millions of customers

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"Aetna now reportedly has ambitions to offer it to a wider field — adding large swaths of new health data to pull from and giving the health insurance company insight into the activities of its customers." Oh God no!

But why not. If you're sitting up all night drinking energy drinks and smoking cigarettes while Uber drops off more McDonalds while I'm out running, working out, stretching regularly...

Why should I subsidise your insurance?

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