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Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by dfps »

Clubber wrote: post #10
betafive wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good.

Not really. I don't care for what they say, but it's important that they have the ability to say it. It's concerning that private companies, through registrars have the ability to erase viewpoints from the public internet. More signs that the internet be treated as a right. I liken the internet to press. Most of it sucks, but having it and being able to freely speak through it, is essential to liberty. I mean, if we…

Exactly. This edges Google closer towards monopoly status and competition laws, I think.

But I wonder where on the internet unpopular speech will be hosted?

Even if the UN (and nations) declare internet a human right, where will content be hosted? Will the UN be able to force nations to change their laws to not persecute unpopular speech?

Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by dfps »

sever5 wrote: post #20
betafive wrote: post #17

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No, it's not. There are a finite number of .com registrars-- how many of them do you suppose want to be associated with Literal Nazis? Even if it only serves to waste their time, hassling fascists is still a public service.

There are many privacy/free-speech oriented registrars and hosts. I hate being in the position to defend these types so often from short-sighted moralizers, but it absolutely won't work.

What are these, please?

Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by [deleted] »

betafive wrote: post #5
dfps wrote: post #4

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So is Google now a more reliable/bulletproof registrar? I think I've heard CloudFlare will not take refuse anything

Tbh, I doubt Google knows they're the Stormers' registrar yet; you can transfer domains automatically. CloudFlare doesn't provide hosting, it's a reverse proxy. But, if you believe http://www.crimeflare.com/cfs.html , the actual web server sitting behind dailystormer.com is hosted by online.net, of France.

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Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by jlgaddis »

betafive wrote: post #5
dfps wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is Google now a more reliable/bulletproof registrar? I think I've heard CloudFlare will not take refuse anything

Tbh, I doubt Google knows they're the Stormers' registrar yet; you can transfer domains automatically. CloudFlare doesn't provide hosting, it's a reverse proxy. But, if you believe http://www.crimeflare.com/cfs.html , the actual web server sitting behind dailystormer.com is hosted by online.net, of France.

It seems that entry may be out-of-date (or else traffic to {80,443}/TCP from not-Cloudflare sources is being filtered).

Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by interstitial »

Ah, who took the "hacker" out of hacker news? Would you rather have the stormfront members speaking openly, or getting more educated about the dark web, where they'll be forced to go? I prefer they stay as unsophisticated as possible, openly hosted at godaddy. It's not a false dichotomy. Taking away their hosting is not going to end their site or community. Though it does allow, risk-free opportunity to virtue signal on your favorite platform.

Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by norea-armozel »

Clubber wrote: post #18
willstrafach wrote: post #15

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They can find a registrar which has a ToS they are willing to comply with.

What if there are none?

The First Amendment isn't a subsidy for speech. It just says you can say the most offensive thing you can cook up but no one owes you their ears, papers, or servers to furnish an audience.

Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by nthcolumn »

Caveman_Coder wrote: post #28
nthcolumn wrote: post #25

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Giving Nazis hell is never a waste of time.

Giving racists, on either the left or the right, is never a waste of time...

I'm not sure what left or right has to do with racism but have an uptick for giving racists hell - but it was kind of implied by the 'Nazis' yo.

Re: Daily Stormer Moves from GoDaddy to Google

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Post by nthcolumn »

interstitial wrote: post #36

Ah, who took the "hacker" out of hacker news? Would you rather have the stormfront members speaking openly, or getting more educated about the dark web, where they'll be forced to go? I prefer they stay as unsophisticated as possible, openly hosted at godaddy. It's not a false dichotomy. Taking away their hosting is not going to end their site or community. Though it does allow, risk-free opportunity to virtue signal…

He may be many things but weev is not stupid. He knows enough already. Security through obscurity never works. I fully expected him to move his shit to the company in Ukraine he works for now. Maybe having to move their base around will leave a trail. Ultimately we want actual hands on these douche bags.
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