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Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by kevin_b_er »

avip wrote: post #94
dangrossman wrote: post #52

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> the Amazon seller I used is listed If it was "fulfilled by Amazon", it doesn't matter what seller you chose, you could have been sent a counterfeit item from another seller. Sellers using fulfillment-by-Amazon send their stock to Amazon's warehouse, where it gets thrown in the same bin as all the other stock of that item from everyone else selling it. When it gets pulled to ship to you, there's no guarantee you get…

Are they actually liable? If so, we should have seen class acts by now no?

Mandatory binding arbitration. You may not sue amazon in a court of law.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by jrochkind1 »

jondubois wrote: post #127
schoen wrote: post #88

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I stared at a partial eclipse as a child without eye protection for several periods of about 10-12 seconds (remembering that I used to occasionally look at the regular sun for 3-4 seconds without apparent injury). Unfortunately, this gave me an afterimage of the eclipse in one eye that lasted for six months (!) -- although I was fortunate that it didn't last even longer than that. The optometrist I consulted the day…

As a child, I got to see a perfect full solar eclipse at mid day on a clear sky. I took the glasses off for a few seconds when the sun was perfectly behind the moon and it was amazing. It felt very comfortable to look at, no afterimage at all; except in my memory... The memory is still there after 15+ years.

When the sun is fully eclipsed, you can look at it without damage.

When it's not, you can't. But it may not appear "as bright" when it's partially eclipsed, it may be "easier" to stare at it, without reflexes kicking in to stop it, and do permanent damage to your eyes.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by jws »

netsharc wrote: post #113
m-j-fox wrote: post #89

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Isn't it somewhat on the sellers who are willing to blind people for a buck? That's not ok even in China.

They put some sort of deadly chemical in baby milk to make it more frothy, because that's a sign of more protein... they don't give a shit ("they" being some turbo-capitalists...).

It was a more mundane horror. The melamine acts as a filler but also tests as protein. In the body it causes kidney trouble. In the end, 0.001% of the babies fed the adulterated formula died. (3 out of 300000). That makes being fed the tainted formula roughly as deadly as traveling 500 miles in a car in the United States.

So it wasn't a case of adding deadly poison, it was a case of adding an almost safe ingredient because the manufacturers needed to get their cost down to compete. Amazingly, it appears that melamine was even too expensive and they bought scrap melamine from the manufacturing process which was not pure enough to be used in plastics, beacuase it contained the actual kidney damaging chemical rather than just the precursor.

Lots of detail in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by blubber42 »

breakyerself wrote: post #123
typpo wrote: post #30

I ordered the top-rated eclipse glasses on Amazon a few months ago and they were counterfeit. If you put them on during daytime you can see indirect sunlight and even my kitchen light. They were shipped from China despite having "Made in the USA" markings and all the proper ISO certification fine print. I haven't received any communication from Amazon, so people who haven't heard from them should not assume their gla…

I have the exact opposite situation. I got 9 pairs of plastic framed glasses on Amazon. They seem really legit. Only thing I can see through them is the sun unless I hold a light source directly up to the lenses. Amazon gave me a refund and told me not to use them. I'm going to try to research some more research on Monday like getting a hold of the company that gave them the ISO rating. This is apparently the source…

Not being able to see through them doesn't mean anything, unless you can see UV.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by ceejayoz »

simonh wrote: post #76
s0rce wrote: post #61

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This problem specifically could be easily solved by not allowing any random seller to sell the same item on Amazon without the purchases having any idea.

I'm not sure what you mean. They do track everything, otherwise they couldn't match up your payment for the product with the vendor it actually came from in order to pay them. The question is what else are Amazon willing to do with that information, which turns out to be very little or nothing because as soon as Amazon gets humans involved in the transaction making actual decisions, their costs shoot up.

> I'm not sure what you mean. They do track everything, otherwise they couldn't match up your payment for the product with the vendor it actually came from in order to pay them.

They don't, though. All the same-SKU items go into a big box at the warehouse. When you order from a particular seller, they pick one out of that box and send it to you. There's a good chance the specific one they picked out didn't come from that seller's inventory, but another's.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/on-amazon-pooled-merchandise-op...

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by notyourday »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #126
typpo wrote: post #30

I ordered the top-rated eclipse glasses on Amazon a few months ago and they were counterfeit. If you put them on during daytime you can see indirect sunlight and even my kitchen light. They were shipped from China despite having "Made in the USA" markings and all the proper ISO certification fine print. I haven't received any communication from Amazon, so people who haven't heard from them should not assume their gla…

This is why I bought my glasses from an astronomical equipment store. I really hope this clusterfuck causes amazon to get their act together in regards to fraudulent listings.

> This is why I bought my glasses from an astronomical equipment store.

And where do you think that place got their glasses from?

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by snuxoll »

amelius wrote: post #169
MichaelGG wrote: post #60

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It seems incredibly careless of them to tell people if they did not get an email they're OK. There's no way the impact from refunding everyone that bought any such product outweighs the coming lawsuits. I feel bad for people about to be injured. But hopefully this will screw Amazon hard and make them change their ways.

Amazon is already selling large quantities of food, food-supplements, and OTC medications. I'm wondering how these practices have been able to go on without any reports of poisoning.

Ironically, Amazon requires additional verification and approval to sell in the Food/Grocery sections, but not Health & Personal Care.

I'm a lot more concerned about potential counterfeit medication than I am breakfast cereal.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by wtvanhest »

TAeGTrVNmP wrote: post #152
wtvanhest wrote: post #121

I posted 32 days ago asking how to tell if they are real [1]. Amazon informed me that they are fake. Unfortunately I have no way to buy glasses now and will use the pin whole method, but its pretty dissapointing. I hope no one gets hurt [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14755020

I've got some extras that I'm willing to share. E-mail me your address and I'll mail you a pair. I'm in SoCal so they should arrive in SF in time for the eclipse. I got mine directly from one of the NASA-approved suppliers, precisely because I don't trust Amazon anymore. Had to order a small batch, even though I only needed a few: I figured not going blind is worth ~$30.

Wow, thanks! What is your email? Mine is in my profile.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

ant6n wrote: post #170
throwaway613834 wrote: post #157

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Is it really worth your eyes and the extra money to take a risk on the glasses that you're still not giving up on them and planning on researching them? Why not just buy one that you know is reputable?

Where would you suggest one could get one?

I got binoculars, sunglasses, and a camera filter at Best Buy. I had to have them ship the camera filter but it arrived much earlier than they said.
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