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A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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This is the heart of the professor's theory: the jerk culpably fails to appreciate the perspectives of others around him, treating them as tools to be manipulated or idiots to be dealt with rather than as moral and epistemic peers. so, a sociopath? is this theory really new or interesting?

No, a sociopath is someone who lacks a conscience, and so they work to get what they want, even if it harms other people.

Some sociopaths are very good at understanding other people's perspectives, and they use that understanding to trick them, as in the case of con artists. Other sociopaths, the thug-types, instead use force and threats, and so they are not so concerned with understanding other people's psychology.

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I don't agree that jerks are people who don't care about other people's individual circumstances. Jerks are people who think that everyone else is a jerk, which is how they excuse their behaviour. It's not that they don't care why the waiter messed up their order, it's that they think the waiter messed up because they're a jerk.

Perhaps them thinking everyone is a jerk is a side effect of their narcissism.

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Sounds interesting, who is the psychologist?

Jordan B. Peterson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVTogKE25aQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfVXV2IjYQ

thanks, I binged 10 hours of his lectures. This professor has changed my life!

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Jordan B. Peterson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVTogKE25aQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfVXV2IjYQ

thanks, I binged 10 hours of his lectures. This professor has changed my life!

Yes! He's basically Mr. Rogers for adults!

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It's known that "communication can only happen between equals." Otherwise it's order giving no matter the semantics.

I don't mean to sound too crass, but maybe you should keep calm and hit the pub for a pint, read some literature... something. "It's known" sounds a little final. In a more level tone: there are venues for equalizing communication, because of course in society there are hierarchies that we've struggled with for ages. The charge for any individual is being willing to expose themselves to those environments and being w…

I've been in places all across the US billing themselves as Irish pubs, and this is corroborated by my experience particularly in Ohio and Houston. (Yes, I know I went from a state to a city.) I've literally been at sessions where left leaning doctors, devout Christians, gun shop owners, republican judges, wiccan radicals, Discordian internet hipsters, polyamorous librarians, liberal engineers, and libertarian programmers can all bond over a love of music and even be friends. The level of actual Irish Pub authenticity can vary. The actual communication from different points of the socioeconomic ladder and political spectrum is real. What's more, it seems to work better in red states than in blue. In Red states, there's enough left leaning in the music communities, such that a left-right balance of power occurs in such places. In Blue states, there's an overwhelming left lean, so sometimes people far enough on the right are shunned. (And the center-left is labeled "right.")

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I don't mean to sound too crass, but maybe you should keep calm and hit the pub for a pint, read some literature... something. "It's known" sounds a little final. In a more level tone: there are venues for equalizing communication, because of course in society there are hierarchies that we've struggled with for ages. The charge for any individual is being willing to expose themselves to those environments and being w…

I've been in places all across the US billing themselves as Irish pubs, and this is corroborated by my experience particularly in Ohio and Houston. (Yes, I know I went from a state to a city.) I've literally been at sessions where left leaning doctors, devout Christians, gun shop owners, republican judges, wiccan radicals, Discordian internet hipsters, polyamorous librarians, liberal engineers, and libertarian progra…

I agree with just about everything you said excepting your implication that communities that lean further left are not as welcoming to communication (shunning opposing views).

I don't argue that doesn't happen, but I don't think it's isolated to one end of the spectrum. I would bet the symptoms are the same at either extreme -- right or left.

If you mean "center-left" when you say right, I think what you're actually implying is communication is better tolerated in communities with more balance between political viewpoints, and less given to extremes.

But traditionally, outside of movements, it's been somewhat bad form to bring politics into the pub at all.

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