I recommend eating tofu as tofu, not as a fake meat. It's delicious if you know how to prepare it.
What's wrong with eating fake meat if that's what you like?
Can protein startups and their investors take on Big Cow?
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not a great food for men, though.
Here are two PubMed surveys that show there is no evidence for Soy consumption having feminizing effects on men. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224 [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106
I'll do some more research on this, since you took the time to post. My initial reaction after doing a bit of searching on the author is that he appears to have a financial interest in promoting soy-based foods.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't speak for China and Indonesia, but I've lived in Japan for a number of years. Tofu is not super common as a dish, mostly as a filler in small portions of some side dishes.
What do you have to say to the other two responses that debunk your claim?
I'm always willing to look at evidence. I'm a little concerned about the objectivity of the author of the papers linked to.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here are two PubMed surveys that show there is no evidence for Soy consumption having feminizing effects on men. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224 [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106
I'll do some more research on this, since you took the time to post. My initial reaction after doing a bit of searching on the author is that he appears to have a financial interest in promoting soy-based foods.
Soy-based foods have essentially no impact on testosterone levels in men at the typical levels of consumption: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-soy-good-or-bad-for-me/
You'd have to basically almost be subsisting off of soy to start to see effects.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll do some more research on this, since you took the time to post. My initial reaction after doing a bit of searching on the author is that he appears to have a financial interest in promoting soy-based foods.
Soy-based foods have essentially no impact on testosterone levels in men at the typical levels of consumption: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-soy-good-or-bad-for-me/ You'd have to basically almost be subsisting off of soy to start to see effects.
Your second point is worth looking into further. Soy can be found in many products: https://www.verywell.com/food-and-ingredients-to-avoid-on-a-...
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#37Hampton Creek is the makers of "Just Mayo" which is talked about in this article. What isn't said is that they've been on the shelves at Target up until 2 months ago when Target pulled all their products for an unknown reason. Speculation has it that Hellmans was very upset that Just Mayo was disrupting the mayo business and delivered falsified claims to Target trying to get them to pull the products. It's a real slugfest right now.
On another note, Beyond Meat's founder was featured on "How I Built This", a favorite podcast for many HN'ers.
Re: Can protein startups and their investors take on Big Cow?
#38I had a startup that made software for meat processing companies. It is pretty horrifying being in meat plants but most people are not yet at the point where they can accept not eating it. In my experience I feel better eating occasional offal and grass-fed meat than I do regularly eating meat of any other variety or eliminating it entirely. It is one thing to claim moral high ground and simply avoid eating meat, and we can absolutely do away with it on a taste basis based on what is coming out of vegan restaurants these days, but the cultural shift will take a long time and "good enough" is clearly a higher bar than tofu. I suspect it is somewhat like electric cars. A more political issue than we like to admit and something where assuming the products were comparable in price/taste/texture/experience people might opt for the socially concious choice, that threshold simple isn't there for the majority of people yet. A worthy pursuit but one that is not necessarily limited to startups. Big Food and one off restaurants are pursuing these ideas more fundamentally than anyone else is right now and I suspect that they will be the eventual winners of the race to good enough. The meat industry is fundamentally antiquated the way it is setup now and will simply shrink down to as demand wanes, or more likely just switch to exporting.
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I'm always willing to look at evidence. I'm a little concerned about the objectivity of the author of the papers linked to.
You mean as opposed to the 0 papers you cited?
Well, yes actually. I've read enough over the years that I personally avoid soy and soy-based products. When it comes up, I explain why. It's not a great accomplishment to link to a paper that performs well in organic search.
Re: Can protein startups and their investors take on Big Cow?
#40Hampton Creek is the makers of "Just Mayo" which is talked about in this article. What isn't said is that they've been on the shelves at Target up until 2 months ago when Target pulled all their products for an unknown reason. Speculation has it that Hellmans was very upset that Just Mayo was disrupting the mayo business and delivered falsified claims to Target trying to get them to pull the products. It's a real slu…
Hampton Creek had their own controversies. They early on would send out people to buy their own mayo and create fake demand.