Annual note to self: most of the world exists outside the tech bubble

Post by vostok » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 6:17 PM UTC

ganoushoreilly wrote: post #76

vostok wrote: post #57

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I don't think Trump lived a working class life before becoming president.

I don't think it was about that, it was about him being someone from outside the establishment that they perceive as being out of touch. I've still not met anyone that's pro trump and believes most of what he was promoting. Sadly the most common response I get is "I wasn't voting for Hillary, so I voted Trump". I truly believe these Americans feel they are are in desperate circumstances and someone from the outside t…

Post by jansho » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 6:20 PM UTC

isostatic wrote: post #55

darod wrote: post #43

I wonder how long it will take for this thought to fade from Steve's mind once he returns to SV. It's easy for people come to these realizations after getting outside of their comfort zone but just as easily return to the status quo. I think one of the biggest myths about tech in general is that it's here to help people. It's really not. It's job is to remove barriers to make workflows more efficient, typically to th…

But this is a good thing. In our Delhi office, each elevator has an attendant who's sole job is to push the button of the floor you want. This means less space in the lift for passengers, and lifts being taken out of commission because there's nobody to push the button. Removing this job (by having the technology to allow passengers to select their floor themselves) means improvement for the users. The same applies t…

Post by wott » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #49

R_haterade wrote: post #36

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>That last part bothers me a lot. It seems a lot of people just don't want to move. Anecdotally I've moved nearly 6 times in the last 8 years. My parents have done the same. How do we build any kind of community with so little permanence? If we can't bond with our neighbors, we become these empty, atomized husks floating from one economic opportunity to another. Put another way, how can a village raise a child if the…

That would be a valid complaint if grand parent was arguing that we should move every six weeks, but here the argument might be that we should move every dozen years or so -- which should be plenty of time to figure out if your neighbours are worth keeping around as permenant friends or were just aquentences of accident.

Post by hack_mmmm » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 6:22 PM UTC

jboggan wrote: post #88

bmwe30is wrote: post #30

>Some are rooted, embedded in their communities; and some are trapped — because housing is unaffordable where the better paying jobs are. And the jobs that are high paying are not the jobs they built their lives on. There's some texture and nuance to this statement. I remember on NPR, they interviewed a lady whom mentioned similar sentiments; her and her husband had built a family, worked in the blue-collar industry…

It's really not easy to uproot and move from an economically depressed area to an active metropolis. I've done it (Athens, GA to San Francisco in late 2012) and it was incredibly expensive and involved a large amount of personal credit use, cash assistance from family, and time. It was a huge stretch at the time for me to move across the country and break into a new industry, and I did it as a single man, willing and…

Post by hack_mmmm » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

hack_mmmm wrote: post #97

jboggan wrote: post #88

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It's really not easy to uproot and move from an economically depressed area to an active metropolis. I've done it (Athens, GA to San Francisco in late 2012) and it was incredibly expensive and involved a large amount of personal credit use, cash assistance from family, and time. It was a huge stretch at the time for me to move across the country and break into a new industry, and I did it as a single man, willing and…

"Now that I'm a programmer I can theoretically get a job in pretty much any American city I choose, and probably negotiate a starting/moving bonus" Try getting a job in Athens Georgia with equal or greater salary than you are earning now in SF