Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox • Hacker News Board

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by sirfz » Thu, Aug 03, 2017, 1:26 PM UTC

bartvk wrote: post #206

sirfz wrote: post #83

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What does "faster" mean? honest question. I've been using Firefox since its early days and never jumped on the Chrome bandwagon simply because I didn't see the need to do so. When Firefox felt slow, it usually was the whole operating system that's slow and neither Chrome or any other browser could solve that. Nowadays, all the machines I use are powerful enough to not feel any such slowness and I just don't understan…

Not OP, but what I think is that FF renders the twitch.tv page very slow. On macOS, not just the tab but the whole FF app locks up, showing a spinning beach ball. It's the only site that I found that does that.

I don't personally visit twitch.tv but I just did and it loaded normally and streaming auto-played without enabling Flash (although the site requested it for some reason).

Speaking of Flash, some sites request Flash on Firefox but not on Chrome for example (although it's totally unnecessary). This is becoming less frequent recently but it shows that a lot of websites are not taking advantage of Firefox's full features as they do with Chrome (something to consider as well).

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by SwellJoe » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 7:15 AM UTC

ctw wrote: post #183

SwellJoe wrote: post #97

Somehow, I assumed "Notes" would be "notes for this page". But, it's just a notepad...no awareness of where I am. That's much less interesting/useful than I thought it would be. Is there a browser plugin out there that provides a notes sidebar for the page you're currently on, and allows flipping through the notes with a link to the pages they relate to? Because that'd be awesome. Googling only reveals some kitschy "…

Doesn't Edge have this built in?

I don't know. Is there a Linux version?

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by thirdsun » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 8:47 AM UTC

adito wrote: post #76

notheguyouthink wrote: post #60

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Yea I'm definitely going to try switching to Nightly based on the comments here. As well as adjusting some of the configuration. Thanks!

Would you comment back here and gives your first impression on it? How fast is it compared to stable.

Just downloaded Nightly and it's a much better experience than the beta channel I was using before. Snappier page load, cleaner UI (compact theme).

However it still seems to lack in the animation department. CSS transformations and transitions, particularly if affecting complex elements, just aren't as smooth as in Chrome or Safari. Your own menu animations, like the global drop down menu, are finally fluid and smooth though.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by Vinnl » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 9:35 PM UTC

_tulpa wrote: post #207

Vinnl wrote: post #198

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I wonder which browser you're using, because there are plenty that come rather close to your definition (e.g. Midori), but odds are really high that you're not using them - because nobody is. Thing is, if Mozilla wants to stay relevant, it has to find out what users want and deliver that. These experiments are one way to do that.

Nobody uses them because they're broken and slow.

Lynx works and is fast.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by Vinnl » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 9:37 PM UTC

yAnonymous wrote: post #209

Vinnl wrote: post #197

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> speed, security, quality of the developer tools Coincidentally, all of the examples you mention have been a major focus for far more people within Mozilla than their experiments are, and improvements in these areas have really been noticeable if you've been using Firefox lately.

Yes, but these changes take time and they only started working on them when users started leaving for Chrome. Like many others, I used Firefox for a long time despite it being technically inferior to Chrome, but at some point you say 'fuck it' and make the change. Mozilla, given their market share, should have been first to offer 64-bit support, separate processes for tabs, sand-boxing and a lot of other stuff, but t…

Those are accurate comments about Mozilla in the past, but you can't say development currently is bad when they're working exactly on what you say they should be working on (and some other things).

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by yoasif_ » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 5:18 PM UTC

dingo_bat wrote: post #189

addicted wrote: post #178

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This is how they are adding features to the browser. This is a smart way of doing it. Make it experimental, gauge the feedback, and integrate it if the feedback makes it seem useful. As an example, they tried vertical tabs, and it appears it didn't work as well as they needed it to be so it has been left out. On the flip side, the empty tab page was also an experiment, and that worked well and made it to the default…

Vertical tabs used to work so well on Firefox that I held on for just that, even when everybody had already left for Chrome. Then they killed it. Now you're saying they dropped it because they couldn't get it to work again. Kind of sad.

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Vertical tabs have never been built into Firefox.

Unsure what you mean by "they dropped it because they couldn't get it to work again" -- it was never built into Firefox.