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Maybe they can use it to pay their workers fair wages [0] or to improve work conditions to be not twice as bad as in the rest of the industry [1] [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2017/02/09/unionizi... [1] https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/24/tesla-fac...
If tesla can get 500,000 cars out there, ICE cars are toast. Enough of legacy cars and makers.
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It can take 30 years to break even. It's attached to a house , which will be around at least that long. When you sell that house in the future, it's STILL worth $2500 a year off the electricity bill. The house buyer will be willing to pay more for the house for that; if they keep the house for five years, they will have spent $12500 less on electricity, and they'll still have an electric roof to sell to the next buye…
What will the power generation capacity of that roof be after so much time? Don't solar panels wear out?
https://solarpowerrocks.com/solar-basics/how-long-solar-pane...
Obviously probably solar but it would last long enough to break even.
Let's talk about Solar City. Their product is intended to be a solar roof, indistinguishable from a typical roof from street level. Costs look to be in the $50,000+ range. The marketing is that homeowners will not only drive electric vehicles, but go completely off grid by storing the energy collected into Tesla batteries. In order for this to make financial sense, there needs to be an ROI for the homeowner. So... ho…
How much would it cost for a roof-mounted device that makes gasoline for you? Add your local transportation bill to your electricity bill and now tell me how many years it is.
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For the exact same reason Tesla won't be able to sell the Model S, because taking the difference between electricity and petrol prices, it will take 50 years to pay off the price difference from a Toyota.
> Tesla won't be able to sell the Model S Citation needed.
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$2 per user year?
From Twitter: Chris Moore @ctmoore91 Aug 10 More Quick math on $SNAP marketing numbers: - $3.60 per existing user - $89 per acquired user to make revenue of $1.05 per user in... 3 months
Let's talk about Solar City. Their product is intended to be a solar roof, indistinguishable from a typical roof from street level. Costs look to be in the $50,000+ range. The marketing is that homeowners will not only drive electric vehicles, but go completely off grid by storing the energy collected into Tesla batteries. In order for this to make financial sense, there needs to be an ROI for the homeowner. So... ho…
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ITT: people who don't live in areas that routinely get hail and periodic roof replacements.
Well, yeah, an area that routinely gets hail and requires roof replacement more often would not have as long of a window for a solar roof to recoup the investment. And the parts of the US that one would expect to dominate HN are overwhelmingly those that don't get hail.
Let's talk about Solar City. Their product is intended to be a solar roof, indistinguishable from a typical roof from street level. Costs look to be in the $50,000+ range. The marketing is that homeowners will not only drive electric vehicles, but go completely off grid by storing the energy collected into Tesla batteries. In order for this to make financial sense, there needs to be an ROI for the homeowner. So... ho…
You are missing the point. Tesla customers care about money as much as Apple customers do...they don't. What they care about is being part of the future...today! Tesla customers look at ICE cars and grid dependence like Apple owners look at feature phones...pity full.
And why is this bad?
It's interesting to me that in May of last year Snap, Inc raised about the same amount of money. I've never understood how some companies need so much money. To me it makes sense for Tesla. They are building actual cars and that is expensive. What on earth did Snap need a 1.8 billion for?