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A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jerk has been synonymous with "rude person" as long as I've been alive. If there was a shift, it wasn't all that recent.

And yet "rude" itself has also changed -- from meaning "unsophisticated" to meaning something more along the lines of "obnoxious".

Is not saying hello when you see someone that you would normally be expected to say hello to not considered "rude"? It is to me, but it's not obnoxious...

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet "rude" itself has also changed -- from meaning "unsophisticated" to meaning something more along the lines of "obnoxious".

Is not saying hello when you see someone that you would normally be expected to say hello to not considered "rude"? It is to me, but it's not obnoxious...

There's a reason I said "more along the lines of" -- I was having trouble coming up with a definition which was precise without being circular.

In any event, I'm sure you can agree that "rude" no longer means simply "unsophisticated".

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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I don't agree that jerks are people who don't care about other people's individual circumstances. Jerks are people who think that everyone else is a jerk, which is how they excuse their behaviour.

It's not that they don't care why the waiter messed up their order, it's that they think the waiter messed up because they're a jerk.

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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post #23

I don't agree that jerks are people who don't care about other people's individual circumstances. Jerks are people who think that everyone else is a jerk, which is how they excuse their behaviour. It's not that they don't care why the waiter messed up their order, it's that they think the waiter messed up because they're a jerk.

This strikes me as circular.

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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post #23

I don't agree that jerks are people who don't care about other people's individual circumstances. Jerks are people who think that everyone else is a jerk, which is how they excuse their behaviour. It's not that they don't care why the waiter messed up their order, it's that they think the waiter messed up because they're a jerk.

Sounds like a narrow application of the fundamental attribution bias. Not sure that explains everything, but I'd bet it plays a big part.

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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One interesting quip I've heard from a psychologist recently, is that communication only really works well going down the dominance hierarchy. (I think it can work across.) I see a lot of the outrage driven viral media of today as being "punching down" by aspirant upper-echelon socioeconomic people onto lower-echelon people. Also, if communication only really works well going down the dominance hierarchy, doesn't thi…

It's known that "communication can only happen between equals." Otherwise it's order giving no matter the semantics.

It is known.

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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post #18

"Third, I’ve called the jerk ‘he’, for reasons you might guess. But then it seems too gendered to call the sweetheart ‘she’, so I’ve made the sweetheart a ‘he’ too." Absolutely hilarious. I guess one point he's making is that men have a problem with noncompliance, but seems to have forgotten the upside entirely

I think the reason is that if he had used 'she', there would have been a shitstorm. If you do a word-replace of all instances of 'he' with 'she' and 'his' with 'her', it becomes an entirely different article.

Maybe, but actually a masculine avatar is fine here. The whole thing would have worked just as well if, instead of "sweetheart", he'd used the term "nice-guy" as in the claim "nice-guys finish last."

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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post #15

One interesting quip I've heard from a psychologist recently, is that communication only really works well going down the dominance hierarchy. (I think it can work across.) I see a lot of the outrage driven viral media of today as being "punching down" by aspirant upper-echelon socioeconomic people onto lower-echelon people. Also, if communication only really works well going down the dominance hierarchy, doesn't thi…

It's known that "communication can only happen between equals." Otherwise it's order giving no matter the semantics.

Could you expand on the "it's known" part? Any research? This sounds as a very general statement. Social hierarchies can be dynamic.

Re: A Theory of Jerks (2014)

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post #24
post #23

I don't agree that jerks are people who don't care about other people's individual circumstances. Jerks are people who think that everyone else is a jerk, which is how they excuse their behaviour. It's not that they don't care why the waiter messed up their order, it's that they think the waiter messed up because they're a jerk.

This strikes me as circular.

Your comment strikes me as circular.
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