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Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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A quick Google search reveals the following. "Admiral identifies audiences with ad blockers turned on, works to re-establish those users (by opting in to a lightened ad experience, say, or asking to be whitelisted) and then makes a small cut of every ad served to the reacquired audience." Source: https://adexchanger.com/publishers/another-ad-blocking-solut... tl;dr Admiral is a startup that measures an audience's "ad…

Bordering on off-topic: what is, "Id?"

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Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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post #469

A quick Google search reveals the following. "Admiral identifies audiences with ad blockers turned on, works to re-establish those users (by opting in to a lightened ad experience, say, or asking to be whitelisted) and then makes a small cut of every ad served to the reacquired audience." Source: https://adexchanger.com/publishers/another-ad-blocking-solut... tl;dr Admiral is a startup that measures an audience's "ad…

Bordering on off-topic: what is, "Id?"

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Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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I hate to say it, but the ad-blocking community is handling this problem the same way governments often handle things: Reactionary instead of pro-active. The real source of the problem with ads, is that almost every ad network allows ads to be self posted with little to no filter. This opens us all up to the abuse from ads we've been experiencing for over a decade now. Could you imagine what would happen if you were…

I like NPR's approach to broadcast ads: their own commentators read a short little script, rather than playing an audio clip that was provided to them. There are various ways this can and has been applied to Internet ads, like making them text-only.

On the other side of things, I would love to see a search engine that pushes sites down in its rankings proportionally to the obnoxiousness of their ads.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Here's the thing - if blocking the loading of your protection script from a third-party server is all it takes to bypass your paywall, haven't you really, really screwed up? Surely it should be the other way around - the paywall doesn't let you through unless the code is accessible and gets run? I'm not going to try and claim people wouldn't be so stupid as to try to implement it this way...

> I'm not going to try and claim people wouldn't be so stupid as to try to implement it this way. They aren't stupid: they are incredibly intelligent. It was implemented this way to weaponize the DMCA, plain and simple.

If it's actually to protect anything, it's dumb, as it's defeated by whitelists, filters or even poor connections...

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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I'd rather just go a level up... You don't want users to tamper with your ads? Ok, we'll block your entire site. No tampering.

users of your list will not get this. And will stop using your list. This ending up not serving your purpose nor theirs. For instance, let me go out on a limb and point out how some distros of linux insist on shipping without any non-free software. So, a user ends up having to go through hoops to just get an audio of video file playing. I think the analogy Im going for is, you don't want to play by our rules (our lic…

What common audio/video codecs/formats require non-free software to play?

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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I'd rather just go a level up... You don't want users to tamper with your ads? Ok, we'll block your entire site. No tampering.

users of your list will not get this. And will stop using your list. This ending up not serving your purpose nor theirs. For instance, let me go out on a limb and point out how some distros of linux insist on shipping without any non-free software. So, a user ends up having to go through hoops to just get an audio of video file playing. I think the analogy Im going for is, you don't want to play by our rules (our lic…

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Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Other countries have copyright laws too. Most of these laws have some kind of notice-followed-by-takedown protocol, and my understanding is that in many jurisdictions, a DMCA takedown notice qualifies as such a notice. Probably the only major difference would be the amount of effort the infringed party would have to go through to enforce the takedown notice if the infringing party is non-compliant. Disclaimer: IANAL.

For example, if you host this list in Russia DMCA will not do anything because (sorry for my French) Russia does not give a shit about U.S. copyright laws.

It's quite possible that Russian companies will not care about DMCA, but that's not to say Russia doesn't have their own copyright law, which includes a notice and takedown protocol. It's just a question of how much effort you want to go through to take something down.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Other countries have copyright laws too. Most of these laws have some kind of notice-followed-by-takedown protocol, and my understanding is that in many jurisdictions, a DMCA takedown notice qualifies as such a notice. Probably the only major difference would be the amount of effort the infringed party would have to go through to enforce the takedown notice if the infringing party is non-compliant. Disclaimer: IANAL.

> and my understanding is that in many jurisdictions, a DMCA takedown notice qualifies as such a notice. It sounds a bit weird that a notice that has legal ramifications and is written in non-official language of the country would be legally binding. Or would American judges accept DMCA notice that was written in Spanish (I was considering using something like Comorian, but that's probably a bit too different case)?

I imagine it differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. If the law merely states something along the lines of the takedown notice having to contain the copyrighted work, the name of the copyright holder and some kind of assurance that the copyright holder is in accordance with the content of the notice, a DMCA takedown notice might qualify. Language could be a problem, but it would probably be hard to argue that you were unable to process a takedown notice written in english if your site is doing business in that language (which won't apply to every case, but presumably the majority).
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